98 Chrylser Town and Country Overheating -Fan Relay/Fan Question

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by brett, Apr 21, 2006.

  1. brett

    brett Guest

    My 98 T&C has a problem with overheating... cooling fans not spinning.
    Original issue was fans got stuck on and killed the battery. Changed
    the cooling fan relay. Worked for 3 days or so. Cooling fan relay
    went dead. Before replacing it, I tried to measure the voltage coming
    from the computer. Big mistake, my meter was on amps and I blew the
    fuses in it (not sure if any damage to the computer/ecu). Got another
    cooling fan relay and replaced it. Worked for a week or so... then it
    went dead. Fixed the meter and my fans operate at ~6.5 amps for the
    driver side and ~9 amps for the pass side. Does anyone know what the
    current draw should be for each of the fans on the vehicle? Normally I
    would think they should be the same, but they are different part
    numbers. Siemens part number PM9044 (for driver side), and PM9046 (for
    pass side) or Visteon part number 130106 (for driver side), and 130104
    (for pass side). Before I blow another cooling fan relay, thought I
    should find out what the fan current should be... just in case the
    load is too high and causing the modules to blow.

    Any help or assistance would greatly be appreciate.

    Thanks,

    Brett
     
    brett, Apr 21, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Ummm - you might simply go ahead and replace the fan motors and be done
    with it.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Apr 22, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    Brett, I don't have specs for the fan motor but a couple things to check
    before you go and replace the fan motors.
    The mounting surface is also used as a heat transfer so be sure it is clean
    and tight when installing it. Apply a light film of dielectric grease to
    the base of the relay if you have some. Verify ground (G102) Left frame rail
    is not loose or corroded. This will cause the relay to overheat and fail
    prematurely if it is not a good ground.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Apr 22, 2006
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  4. brett

    maxpower Guest

    Brett, I don't have specs for the fan motor but a couple things to check
    before you go and replace the fan motors.
    The mounting surface is also used as a heat transfer so be sure it is clean
    and tight when installing it. Apply a light film of dielectric grease to
    the base of the relay if you have some. Verify ground (G102) Left frame rail
    is not loose or corroded. This will cause the relay to overheat and fail
    prematurely if it is not a good ground.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Apr 22, 2006
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  5. brett

    brett Guest

    Glenn,

    Great suggestions... I will make sure I add the grease and verify the
    ground. Because the passenger side is running ~2.5-3.0amps higher than
    the drivers side, I have disconnected the pass side and installed the
    module. Only one day so far, but the module is still working. Does
    anyone know if this 2.5-3.0amp higher load is normal?

    Also, I was looking at the NHTSA site and found these 2 TSB's on rad
    fan cooling:

    Make : CHRYSLER Model : TOWN AND COUNTRY Year : 1998
    Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
    Service Bulletin Num : 183397 Date of Bulletin: DEC 31, 1997
    NHTSA Item Number: 600488
    Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:COOLING SYSTEM:FAN
    Summary:
    SUBJECT REGARDING IMPROPER COOLING FAN RELAY ACTUATION. *YC

    Make : CHRYSLER Model : TOWN AND COUNTRY Year : 1998
    Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
    Service Bulletin Num : 9814 Date of Bulletin: MAR 18, 1998
    NHTSA Item Number: 601253
    Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:IGNITION:MODULE
    Summary:
    CONDITION WITH THE SOFTWARE WITHIN THE POWERTRAIN (PCM) MAY NOT OPERATE
    THE SOLID STATE RELAY FOR THE RADIATOR FAN CORRECTLY. *YC

    Is it possible that my problem is something from these? Could my PCM
    be causing the issue at hand? Does anyone know what these TSB say?

    The reason I ask is that on one site someone mentioned that either the
    PCM or the Fan Relay Module needs to be programmed when one puts on a
    new Fan Relay Module. Is this correct?

    Thanks for your advice,
    Brett
     
    brett, Apr 22, 2006
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