97 Chrysler T&C 3.8 - radiator cooling fan problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by liona, Jul 5, 2004.

  1. liona

    liona Guest

    I have replaced broken/burned radiator fan relay twice in three weeks.
    Someone told me the fans might be the problem, being "grounded or shorted"
    such that it is consuming too much electric power causing the relay to
    burn-out. I was thinking if it so, should it not burn the fuse (instead
    of the relay)? Any other thoughts, or has anybody experienced the same
    problem, and how was it fixed? Thanks in advance for any help.
     
    liona, Jul 5, 2004
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  2. liona

    Bill Putney Guest

    It could be what is known in electrical engineering as a "smart short" -
    that is a partial short (or higher than normal load) that is high enough
    resistance not to blow the circuit fuse, but low enough to cause damage
    to certain components thru overheating over a period of time. A good
    design would be such that such a condition could never happen, but
    sometimes, that is impossible to meet for all possible situations
    (primarily because there is no such thing as a perfect fuse) - IOW,
    sometimes it is necessary for the designers to cross their fingers and
    hope that all failures will be a hard short and blow the fuse.

    Sorry I can't offer any practical advice, but thought I'd give you that
    info.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Jul 6, 2004
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  3. liona

    liona Guest

    Thanks for the info, Bill.
     
    liona, Jul 6, 2004
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  4. liona

    David Allen Guest

    The fan relay is a recall item on my '96 G. Caravan 3.8. Not sure on the
    '97. The problem (resulting in the recall) was, I think, one of the screws
    holding the relay onto the frame would break causing a loss of heat transfer
    to the frame. The relay would heat up and burn out. With no fan, the
    engine would heat up and have a chance of total failure.
     
    David Allen, Jul 6, 2004
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  5. liona

    Bill Putney Guest


    You're very welcome. But I'd say that you need to thank David too as
    his advice was more on the practical side of actually solving your
    problem.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Jul 10, 2004
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  6. liona

    liona Guest

    Thanks for your input, David. (sorry, just got back from out of town trip,
    so this late reply). The heat transfer through the screw makes sense. I
    did notice that when I replaced the relay, there was only one screw
    holding it. I was not sure though if it broke, or if only one was
    installed to begin with. I looked and there was no trace of an old screw
    previously being in there. Anyway, I added a second screw and also thought
    of replacing the electrical terminal/connector to the relay as one contact
    appeared corroded. It has been over a week since last relay replacement.
    It appears to be holding well.. I am keeping my fingers crossed, hoping
    the relay would last.
    Thanks again.
     
    liona, Jul 19, 2004
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  7. liona

    chrisinmn Guest

    I am having problems with my fans right now. I now the fans are okay becaus
    I can wire them direct and make them run. I have been trying to locate the
    relay but am having difficulities. Can you tell me where this relay is at.
    My van is a 97 Plymouth Voyager, but should be the same i would think.

    Thanks for your help.
     
    chrisinmn, Jul 20, 2004
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  8. liona

    David Allen Guest

    Remove the "resonator" and the air filter housing. You'll see the fan relay
    bolted to the frame. The "resonator" is the unit bolted to the crossmember
    right over the radiator on the right side and has air ducting that leads to
    the throttle body to the rear and air ducting down to the air filter box
    below.
     
    David Allen, Jul 20, 2004
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