96 - 2000 Chrysler strut tower corrosion

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by John, Sep 16, 2003.

  1. John

    John Guest

    I have a 1996 Grand Voyager with strut tower corrosion. Receiving quotes
    from dealers in the 4500.00 range. Chrysler pleads the 5th and says "
    Nothing we can do" I'm not asking them to pay for jack, just trying to get
    an answer why the TSB 23-044-02 states Time Allowance of 15 hours, yet the
    quotes are in the 4500 range (300/hr.)

    Anyone here run into the same thing?
    Did you get Chrysler to compensate you in some way?
    If so, how?

    Looking for guidance as I can not afford this bill yet OTOH I can not in
    good conscious sell this vehicle given the safety concerns.

    Thanks for your time
    Regards,
    John
     
    John, Sep 16, 2003
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    David Allen Guest

    $4500 puts the van close to being totalled because it's close to it's total
    value.

    I would venture out to independent shops to get new quotes. I can't claim
    any expertise in body work, but a friend of mine at work does body work all
    the time on his cars and he is always showing me how he's cut out some
    portion of the body and welded in a new piece to accomodate something new,
    like a new engine or new front end.
     
    David Allen, Sep 16, 2003
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    Art Begun Guest

    Was curious as to location (use of salt on roads) and type of rust
    proofing if any and whether car was bought new or ever in an accident.
    Don't remember ever seeing this one posted before.
     
    Art Begun, Sep 16, 2003
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    Thomas Guest

    Art,

    Location is south Jersey. The rust is developing under the hood on the top
    of the tower. Chrysler has admitted to a design defect (as reported by
    another Voyager owner to me in an email). The way the assembly was designed
    allows water to sit on the top of the tower mount under the hood. Here is
    a link showing the problem. This is not my vehicle but of another Voyager
    owner who posted it.

    http://train.ed.psu.edu/mini006.jpg

    John
     
    Thomas, Sep 17, 2003
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    Bill Putney Guest

    After seeing the photo, I agree with David - take it to a local
    competent welding and fabrication shop. They should be able to make a
    plate with the right cutouts and bolt holes to weld over top of the
    existing metal. It should be a fraction of the $4500 you were quoted by
    the dealer - my WAG would be under $500. It can be done to not look too
    bad, paint it with matching paint, etc., though it will be obvious to
    someone looking in that area what was done, it should work fine.

    I once paid a local welding/fab shop $175 to rebuild two 80% rusted out
    frame members in a Subaru - still on the road 10 years later.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 17, 2003
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    David Allen Guest

    I mentioned this friend of mine at work; let me just say that when I see the
    results of his body work, I can't tell that there was ever any work done
    unless I look very closely. Typically, he cuts the desired piece out of a
    salvaged vehicle using a plasma cutter. He'll take it home and do a rough
    cut on his car with the plasma cutter, then line up the new piece and cut to
    fit. Then he welds it on, grinds to smooth out the weld, then paints.

    I imagine with a strut tower, it's important that it's lined up just right.
    I'm not sure how one does that. I wonder what the dealer does for $4500!
     
    David Allen, Sep 17, 2003
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    Bill Putney Guest

    LOL! For that price he could weld a whole van in place of the old one,
    and never have to turn the welder on! 8^)

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 17, 2003
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    Art Begun Guest

    I had 2 91 Ford Taurus's. They had only limited alignment ability
    and it was common to have to drill new holes in the strut tower and
    weld reinforcements to make certain alignment adjustments.
     
    Art Begun, Sep 18, 2003
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    Richard Guest

    I live in snow and salt country and own a 96. After a few years I noticed
    some reaction to salt on the weld lines on the outside top of the strut
    tower. An $18.00 can of 3M rust proofing spray was and is occasionally
    sprayed by me on this and other critical areas and, as a result, no
    significant rust has formed on this vehicle. Should Chrysler do this at the
    factory? Hell no; that would likely raise the price of the vehicle by 2 to 3
    cents. Can't have that.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Sep 19, 2003
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    BJ Guest

    Had a 96 T&C with the towers rusting also. Even the power steering pump
    rusted out and starting leaking fluid. The whole undercarriage showed signs
    of extreme rusting but the exhaust system original and was still in
    excellent condition. I purchased new and always washed every week. Sounds
    like Chrysler had a problem in 96 but don't know for sure. Mine looked like
    new when I got rid of it last month with only 76k miles on the odometer.
    Just had too many problem. Good luck
    Bob
     
    BJ, Sep 19, 2003
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    mic canic Guest

    i have geard some mention of this being caused by aftermarket body shops not
    doing correct work
     
    mic canic, Sep 21, 2003
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    Art Begun Guest

    I assume you are thru the body rust thru warranty period???
     
    Art Begun, Sep 22, 2003
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