94 ply. voyager drains battery every night.

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by mperu99, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. mperu99

    mperu99 Guest

    I have a 1994 plymouth grand voyager, If it sits overnight or a long spell during the day with the battery hooked up. it drains the battery dead. I simple recharge will get it back up and going

    Here are some key factors, after it drained the first battery I replaced the battery, it drained this one. I had it tested.. tested good under load

    I can read a .96 Amp draw between the negative cable and neg bat term with ignition off. There is a power distribution fuse panel inside the engine compartment. and a fuse panel underneath the drivers side inst. panel. Inside the Power distrubition fuse box there is a fuse labeled (engine off draw) its a 15 amp fuse.. it has a yellow pull tab which allows you to pull the fuse with out removing it completely, if I pull that fuse, the door locks, radio, interior lighting etc.. most of the interior stop working. however.. if I leave this fuse pulled or in the up position it DOES NOT drain the battery. So I have isolated it to what is past this 15A fuse. I put the fuse in place overnight and it did drain the battery. So I trickle charged the battery last night and Now I do not have a front heater blower moter, cruise control, or the elect. rear door latch. The aux. heater works. door locks, radio and lighting
    So does anyone have a wireing layout of what is past this engine off draw fuse? or anyone experienced what I am now? The chilton and hayes manuals do no good in the wiring schematics. Also there seems to be some relays under the dash in that lower center console that i can hear activate when the fuse is put in place.. is that normal? can someone check to see if the hear the same clicking when someone pushes that fuse in place
     
    mperu99, Nov 28, 2005
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    NewMan Guest

    On a car I had years ago I had pretty much the same thing.

    I took it into a shop and had them test the battery and the
    alternator. All tested ok.

    They got digging. In the end it turned out to be starter! Seems the
    solenoid was sticking and did not fully disengage when the starter was
    not activated. This just put some extra load on the electrical system,
    but was not noticable during "normal" driving.

    But leave the car for a couple of days and instant dead battery!

    However, since the problem goes away when you pull that fuse I don't
    know if the starter could be the cause in your case.

    I am going to watch this thread thou, I'm very curious.
     
    NewMan, Nov 29, 2005
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    Given the circuit in question, I'd suggest that you check all the lights to
    make sure they are all off. Make sure you also check the trunk and hood
    lights (if so equipped) since these are difficult to see if they are on.
    Also make sure nothing is shorting out the cigarette and utility lighters.
    One amp is a considerable draw so should not be too difficult to find.

    Bob
    spell during the day with the battery hooked up. it drains the battery dead.
    I simple recharge will get it back up and going.with ignition off. There is a power distribution fuse panel inside the
    engine compartment. and a fuse panel underneath the drivers side inst.
    panel. Inside the Power distrubition fuse box there is a fuse labeled
    (engine off draw) its a 15 amp fuse.. it has a yellow pull tab which allows
    you to pull the fuse with out removing it completely, if I pull that fuse,
    the door locks, radio, interior lighting etc.. most of the interior stop
    working. however.. if I leave this fuse pulled or in the up position it DOES
    NOT drain the battery. So I have isolated it to what is past this 15A fuse.
     
    Bob Shuman, Nov 29, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    during the day with the battery hooked up. it drains the battery dead. I
    simple recharge will get it back up and going.
    the battery, it drained this one. I had it tested.. tested good under load.
    ignition off. There is a power distribution fuse panel inside the engine
    compartment. and a fuse panel underneath the drivers side inst. panel.
    Inside the Power distrubition fuse box there is a fuse labeled (engine off
    draw) its a 15 amp fuse.. it has a yellow pull tab which allows you to pull
    the fuse with out removing it completely, if I pull that fuse, the door
    locks, radio, interior lighting etc.. most of the interior stop working.
    however.. if I leave this fuse pulled or in the up position it DOES NOT
    drain the battery. So I have isolated it to what is past this 15A fuse. I
    put the fuse in place overnight and it did drain the battery. So I trickle
    charged the battery last night and Now I do not have a front heater blower
    moter, cruise control, or the elect. rear door latch. The aux. heater works.
    door locks, radio and lighting.
    fuse? or anyone experienced what I am now? The chilton and hayes manuals do
    no good in the wiring schematics. Also there seems to be some relays under
    the dash in that lower center console that i can hear activate when the fuse
    is put in place.. is that normal? can someone check to see if the hear the
    same clicking when someone pushes that fuse in place.That's the IOD fuse and it powers the accessories in the vehicle when the
    key is off, such as dome lights and radio memory. More then likely you have
    an interior light staying on inside. Make sure to check the lights in the
    very back of the van to see if they go out, also the glove box lite and
    vanity lites.
    It should be easy to locate.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Nov 29, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    spell during the day with the battery hooked up. it drains the battery dead.
    I simple recharge will get it back up and going.with ignition off. There is a power distribution fuse panel inside the
    engine compartment. and a fuse panel underneath the drivers side inst.
    panel. Inside the Power distrubition fuse box there is a fuse labeled
    (engine off draw) its a 15 amp fuse.. it has a yellow pull tab which allows
    you to pull the fuse with out removing it completely, if I pull that fuse,
    the door locks, radio, interior lighting etc.. most of the interior stop
    working. however.. if I leave this fuse pulled or in the up position it DOES
    NOT drain the battery. So I have isolated it to what is past this 15A fuse.
    I put the fuse in place overnight and it did drain the battery. So I trickle
    charged the battery last night and Now I do not have a front heater blower
    moter, cruise control, or the elect. rear door latch. The aux. heater works.
    door locks, radio and lighting.fuse? or anyone experienced what I am now? The chilton and hayes manuals do
    no good in the wiring schematics. Also there seems to be some relays under
    the dash in that lower center console that i can hear activate when the fuse
    is put in place.. is that normal? can someone check to see if the hear the
    same clicking when someone pushes that fuse in place.
    That's the IOD fuse and it powers the accessories in the vehicle when the
    key is off, such as dome lights and radio memory. More then likely you have
    an interior light staying on inside. Make sure to check the lights in the
    very back of the van to see if they go out, also the glove box lite and
    vanity lites.
    It should be easy to locate.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Nov 29, 2005
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    NewMan Guest

    AHHHHHHHHH!

    In talking to my wife I forgat all about this....

    We used to have a 94 Acclaim which was equipped with the trunk
    release. I know my 94 GC has a rear hatch release as well! Does
    yours???

    On our Acclaim, the trunk release solenoid was stuck partially "on".
    This did exactly what you describe. If the car was left for a day or
    two, the battery was dead. We never tried the fuse thing, we just took
    it to a garage and the mechanic found the defective part and replaced
    it.

    Why not start by measuring the current darin, and then disconnecting
    the power lead for that rear hatch release??? That could easily be
    your problem!

    hth
     
    NewMan, Nov 30, 2005
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