93 3.3 DRB II Scan tool

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ncs, Jan 1, 2005.

  1. You expected anything brighter/better from "maxpower"...?
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 7, 2005
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  2. ncs

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    But your buddy Darryl claimed that it would. Now, with both of
    you being the pride <chuckle> of Dodge and Chrysler dealerships
    world wide, don't you think that there should be some agreement
    in the claims that the two of you make?
    No, you don't understand that. if you did, you wouldn't have
    been insisting otherwise, which is exactly what you've been doing
    all though this discussion contrary to the fact that the OP was
    inquiring about a DRB 2* not a DRB 3*
    (* 2* and 3* used because ol' Glen is having eyeball problems.)
    It reads a very abbreviated list of values and codes, a minor
    point that would certainly leave the OP dissatisfied should he
    wish to expand his usage even a little bit.
    No Glen, it's called providing information. Since all you work
    on is Chrysler, your advice WRT a capitol piece of equipment is
    based upon very limited knowledge. The bullshit happens when guys
    like you with tunnel vision start insisting that what YOU are
    familiar with is better than what someone else who DOES work on
    all makes knows, and that is on top of the fact that I used to
    sell about one million dollars worth of this stuff every year.


    <<you just gotta
    Which pretty much makes it as useful as tits on a fish.
    Is that supposed to mean something?
     
    aarcuda69062, Jan 7, 2005
    #42
  3. ncs

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    I guess we'll have to wait until he's moved up from the wash rack
    to new car prep.
     
    aarcuda69062, Jan 7, 2005
    #43
  4. Visualize using your brain.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 7, 2005
    #44
  5. ncs

    maxpower Guest

    yea it means alot, grow up
     
    maxpower, Jan 7, 2005
    #45
  6. ncs

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Sucks being the shop dunce, eh?
     
    aarcuda69062, Jan 7, 2005
    #46
  7. ncs

    maxpower Guest

    Let me spell it out, You independent guys were always threatened by the
    dealer, you always thought you were being unfair, left out and you felt
    unwanted. Now that someone comes in the news group that knows what they are
    doing, you guys feel threatened again, like little children having your
    lolly pop taken away.. I have read so many replys that make no sense whats
    so ever, but noticed the independents dont worry about them because they
    arent threatened, Mr voltmeter, or Daniel complains of my typing and
    punctuation and anyhting that he see's. It really is ashame that you guys
    feel so threatened. i wont take any work away from you guys, or try to take
    away your SAE standards. I know we cant give you all everything that we have
    in our testers, and we are trying to make all the values and sensors the
    same. We are trying to make all the books the same. You just relax, I know
    the cars are getting harder and more complicated to work on for you all, But
    as they come out, we will still try and find the problems and put out the
    TSB's for you all to make it easy, In the mean time, if you dont want to
    feel threatened by me, Hey dont read my Posts, ask your kids, they can
    probably tell you that. Darn I forgot to capitalizean "I" now what ?
     
    maxpower, Jan 8, 2005
    #47
  8. ncs

    mic canic Guest

    yea i know i used it to show a misifre on a ford with a bad coil pac
     
    mic canic, Jan 8, 2005
    #48
  9. ncs

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Oooo, this ought to be good.
    Funny, every time the subject comes up in industry publications,
    it's the other way around. GM, Ford and Chrysler are spending
    millions of dollars trying to woo the customers back to the
    dealership service department. And honestly, why would anyone
    feel threatened by a situation where line mechanics have to give
    a manufacturer a 33% discount on their labors?
    Are all the Ford dealership mechanics in St. Louis still on
    strike over labor times Glen? Should I be threatened by that?
    We always thought we were being unfair?
    I always thought I were being unfair?

    Is the above statement of your supposed to make sense?
    Someone who knows what they are doing?
    Where? When?
    You know, it's funny that you bring up lolly pops, because that
    exactly reminds me of your little DRB3 diatribe. Little Glen
    wants to show off his lolly pop.
    You know what, so have I?
    Like just within the last day or so, someone posted a reply to
    someone who is having engine trouble and the person having
    trouble remarked that the right side exhaust pipe is stone cold
    and that they had a vacuum on the right side exhaust pipe, but
    the person offering advice said that they doubted that it could
    be a cam timing problem. Maybe you missed that particular
    exchange... ... oh wait, you were part of it.
    Yup, no sense what so ever. especially since it takes all of 10
    minutes to verify cam timing on a 3.5 liter LH car.
    Is it any wonder, especially since you managed to make a
    contraction out of the word "see?"
    Trust me, I don't feel threatened, I do feel embarrassed however.
    You mean like the customer a few weeks ago? He went to the Dodge
    dealer with his 2001 Ram 1500 4X4 for a loose steering complaint
    three different times, they couldn't or wouldn't help him.
    Three different times he asked them to TAKE his money.
    He got my name from a co-worker, the truck needed new tie rod
    ends and a track bar. Nice fat juicy job that the dealership
    didn't get or didn't want. (why would they turn down gravy front
    end work?)
    Or how about the 97 Tahoe with the SES light on and failed
    emissions because of said light being on, dealership told her she
    needed two new cats and all four O2 sensors, damn near $2000 on
    the estimate. Luckily her father is a friend of mine and he sent
    her over, did some tests, hung a fuel filter on it, drove it
    until the monitors had run and ran it thru the test station for
    her, all for under $100. Yeah Glen, I feel -real- threatened.
    Please, keep using that ball point pen to fix cars 'cause I'm
    loving every minute of it.
    Our what?
    We?
    FWIW, I already have the testers.
    Oh, good. I was worried because about twelve years ago, I turned
    down a job with the company Chrysler sub-contracts their training
    out to. Glad to see that it's being handled.
    We? I remind you, you are just a dealership shlep, and you know
    full well that the service department is the asshole of the
    dealership.
    Actually, given the level of diagnostic capability, I think
    they're getting easier. Hell, the information I want from my AAR
    is a hell of a lot harder to come by when compared to plugging
    into the diagnostic port of my Intrepid or my Dakota.
    Of course, I can see how someone such as yourself with a
    comprehension problem might feel that way.
    Really, have you authored many TSBs Glen?
    Some how, I doubt it.
    " Capitalizean?"

    Folks, this is the man who [didn't] fix your car while it was
    under warranty, are there any questions?

    Ahh, that Chrysler could only see the efforts you go to to make
    bad PR.
     
    aarcuda69062, Jan 9, 2005
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  10. ncs

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Really Darryl?

    What model and year was it?
     
    aarcuda69062, Jan 9, 2005
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  11. No it does not. I have an e-mail from OTC directly on this, Chrysler did
    not release ABS info for either the Bendix 10 or the Bendix 4 (which I
    have) OTC has no tool that will bleed them.

    You don't need a tool to bleed ABS unless the system gets air in it. Once
    the
    ABS unit gets air in it you can only bleed it properly by opening all the
    selonoids with a DRB. Presumably if your on top of the brakes, and
    catch leaks early, this won't happen.
    No big deal, the cable uses a standard DIN, I wouldn't be much of a tech if
    I
    couldn't make an extension cable myself now, would I?

    It's just the moronic positioning of the engine connector in the
    compartment, instead
    of under the dash like everyone else.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 9, 2005
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  12. ncs

    maxpower Guest

    An intelligent person would have picked this up easy when you asked about
    Chrysler warranty pay and my comment was that my ink pen still works for me.
    You use you ink pen (and for those lame people that dont undertsand) that
    means documenting the RO for Chrysler to pay you, if you dont write it up ,
    you dont get paid.Perfect example of analyzing what I post to degrade
    Now that someone comes in the news group that knows what they are
    doing, you guys feel threatened again, like little children having your
    lolly pop taken away.. Trying to get other to help with you degrade, Im
    sure you will find a few to help out, but if I could only cut and paste some
    of the e mails that I get from other posters in here about you and a few
    others,,,,,,,,,,,it would really wake you up and let you see what people
    think of you

    And once again another example<<<theres a space missing between capitalize (an) "I" now what? <<<<but then
    again, im starting to relizethngs anout you.. this is my last comment to
    you, I dont normally play your games this long, maybe when you grow up and
    dont feel so threatened you can try again.
    Have a good weekend, I hope I didnt ruin it for you

     
    maxpower, Jan 9, 2005
    #52
  13. ncs

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Yes, an intelligent person -would- have.
    You didn't, still haven't. Guess what that makes you?
    So, all one has to do is "write it up."
    Any questions folks?
    (you're doing fine Glen ;-)
    Here's a hint Glen; I've spent many years working in dealerships
    right next to mechanics exactly like you, guys who's number one
    tool is the pen, they fix nothing but they sure have the system
    locked down pat. They're not even considered to be a one trick
    pony, they're more like a zero trick pony.
    Again, what is it exactly that you are taking away?
    You comprehend so poorly... I am merely showing people (with
    your help) how things work on the dealership end of auto repair.
    Yeah, if only you could cut and paste. Complicated task, that.
    Any questions folks?
    Now I explain that such habits are a strong indicator of someone
    who is lazy, pays no attention to detail and can't be bothered to
    perform the job completely. I explain that someone who has yet
    to master skills taught in the third grade, is unlikely to be
    able to perform the necessary tasks to properly repair a modern
    vehicle.

    <<<<but then
    Again, what exactly is it that I'm being threatened by?
    You? Hah.
    Darryl? Hah-hah!
    The only thing that could ruin my weekend would be the prospect
    of spending one more minute working in another dealership.
     
    aarcuda69062, Jan 9, 2005
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  14. ncs

    mic canic Guest

    full size van with a 5.4 2001
     
    mic canic, Jan 12, 2005
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  15. ncs

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Sorry, no coil "pac" on that vehicle.

    Try again.
     
    aarcuda69062, Jan 12, 2005
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  16. ncs

    maxpower Guest

    O yea volt meter, you left out the "S' in insane, you may want to retype it,
    that may cause your buddies on to freak out
     
    maxpower, Jan 12, 2005
    #56
  17. ncs

    mic canic Guest

    it was a while ago so i might have the year wrong but it was there on a van
    with a 5.4
    i also got 8.0 for replacing plugs removal of intake a help but not nessary
    is the same neil of Wisconsin that has numinous complaints against his
    certs???
    just wondering
     
    mic canic, Jan 13, 2005
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  18. ncs

    mic canic Guest

    i was also wondering when i gods name were you going to stop picking fights
    and start offering some real advice here
    seems to me only fools quarrel and you seem to do that the most
     
    mic canic, Jan 13, 2005
    #58
  19. ncs

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    I will state it again; The Ford 5.4 liter engine doesn't use and
    has never used "coil packs."
    Do we even want to know who financed that rip off?
    What "certs?" There is no such thing as "certs' in Wisconsin.
    Yeah, me too. I'm wondering if both of these stories are a
    figment of your imagination or if they're the bald faced lies
    they appear to be.
     
    aarcuda69062, Jan 13, 2005
    #59
  20. ncs

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    What's the matter, am I making you uncomfortable every time I
    catch you in a lie?

    No "coil packs" on a Ford 5.4 liter V-8, never has been.

    Ya know Darryl, if you're going to tell tall tales, you should
    research the subject a little better.

    As for offering advice, I do. Contrary to your buddy Glen who
    totally choked on that 96 LHS that barely ran, hell, he was
    selling them cam and crank sensors that they didn't need.

    You dealership guys crack me up, if there isn't a trouble code or
    a TSB, you're LOST!
     
    aarcuda69062, Jan 13, 2005
    #60
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