89 New Yorker info needed

[Jesse]

Hello everyone,
I just recently acquired a 1989 Chrysler New York (FWD) in pristine
condition. My new car ;-) has 38000 miles on the clock and is in excellent
condition. It has the 3.0 with ABS. Anyhow, I have a couple of questions...

(1) The wiring going to the starter has a sensor of some sort that is
exposed and not connected / not going into anything. Anyone know what it is?
(I can supply pics if necessary.)

(2) When the vehicle goes over 15mph, the lock automatically lock. I'm
wondering if this is normal or if this vehicle had a keyless entry at one
time? (I never got any remote with the vehicle)

(3) During deceleration, at low speed, I heat what sounds like a slight tap.
(sounds like the turn signal relay going on and off Or like the speedometer
gear clunking) It's definitely coming from the dash area. Anyone know what
it might be?

(4) The Rear level system pump up for about 10 secs when I first start it
and them ever 5-10 minutes or so. Do I have a leak or is that how it works?
Is the rear end suppose to maintain the air when the car is off, overnight?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Jesse
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[Steve Stone]

Hi Jesse,
I have an 88 New Yorker with 96,000 miles. Bought it in 1994 with 44,000
miles.

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(1) The wiring going to the starter has a sensor of some sort that is
exposed and not connected / not going into anything.

Not sure on this but the oil pressure sensor is right around the same place.

(2) When the vehicle goes over 15mph, the lock automatically lock.

This is normal and working as designed

(3) During deceleration, at low speed, I heat what sounds like a slight

tap.

Don't have this problem. I have a digital dash. Does this happen with your
foot on the brake ? Could beed rotors and pads ? The original rotors on my
Bosch 4 wheel disk brakes were junk. large "pot holes" in the rotors.

(4) The Rear level system pump up for about 10 secs when I first start it
and them ever 5-10 minutes or so. Do I have a leak or is that how it works?
Is the rear end suppose to maintain the air when the car is off,

overnight?

That is the way my rear air shocks work as well. If I get out of the car I
can hear the shocks venting air to readjust height.

 

[Jesse]

Steve,
Thank you for your info.

I, too, have the Digital Dash.
The dash indicator for the oil pressure seems to be working, so, I guess its
connected. That means that the wire I am wondering about is still a mystery.

On the noise, It is only heard during deceleration, at low speeds.

Another problem is that the brake pedal is funny. When I apply the breaks,
it makes a slight tap at the brake pedal. Is this normal? Today, I tried
pumping the brake twice and the anti-lock light came on. I just arrived home
puzzled and turned off the car and turned it back on, applied the brake a
few times and nothing! no light. The previous owner told me that the vehicle
has the original tires and brakes. My next course of action to inspect the
brakes. I assume that they might need replacing.
Any input??

BTW, Here is a pic of my NEW (to me) car...
http://www.majeer.com/cny/

Thank you again,

Jesse

 

[Tom Miller]

| Hello everyone,
| I just recently acquired a 1989 Chrysler New York (FWD) in pristine
| condition. My new car ;-) has 38000 miles on the clock and is in excellent
| condition. It has the 3.0 with ABS. Anyhow, I have a couple of questions...

I have the same car, same year, same condition but now with 43,000
miles (when I got it from my father-in-law, who quit driving in 1998,
it had 20,000).

|
| (1) The wiring going to the starter has a sensor of some sort that is
| exposed and not connected / not going into anything. Anyone know what it is?
| (I can supply pics if necessary.)

Beats me.

|
| (2) When the vehicle goes over 15mph, the lock automatically lock. I'm
| wondering if this is normal or if this vehicle had a keyless entry at one
| time? (I never got any remote with the vehicle)

Not keyless. This is supposed to be a safety feature for us geezers
who forget to lock the doors. By the way, if you pull up the outside
handles on mine, the interior lights come on and the door keyholes
light up dimly (usually).

|
| (3) During deceleration, at low speed, I heat what sounds like a slight tap.
| (sounds like the turn signal relay going on and off Or like the speedometer
| gear clunking) It's definitely coming from the dash area. Anyone know what
| it might be?

Dunno. But the engine is pretty loud in general and sound insulation
is minimal (especially compared to our '87 Mercedes 420 SEL).

The digital speedo on mine doesn't come on once in a while when you
start the car, but comes back on after a little driving.

|
| (4) The Rear level system pump up for about 10 secs when I first start it
| and them ever 5-10 minutes or so. Do I have a leak or is that how it works?
| Is the rear end suppose to maintain the air when the car is off, overnight?

About what mine does. It pumps up (semi-loudly) when you first start
the car. I never noticed that it continued every 5-10 minutes,
however. I'll listen more carefully.

Is the ride in yours extremely soft and bouncy? This is the plushest
ride I've ever felt in any car. Shocks are OK, too.

 

[Jesse]

Tom,

Snip, Snip...
(1) The wiring going to the starter has a sensor of some sort that is
exposed and not connected / not going into anything. Anyone know what it is?
(I can supply pics if necessary.)

Beats me.

Would you mind if I took a picture of mine tomorrow and put it up for you to
view? Maybe, you can check your to see if the wire goes anywhere on yours.

Snip, Snip...

(3) During deceleration, at low speed, I heat what sounds like a slight tap.
(sounds like the turn signal relay going on and off Or like the speedometer
gear clunking) It's definitely coming from the dash area. Anyone know what
it might be?

Dunno. But the engine is pretty loud in general and sound insulation
is minimal (especially compared to our '87 Mercedes 420 SEL).

The digital speedo on mine doesn't come on once in a while when you
start the car, but comes back on after a little driving.

My engine sounds normal. (not loud at all)
My Digital dash works great. I especially like the Climate Control. Never
had such a feature before.

Snip, Snip...
(4) The Rear level system pump up for about 10 secs when I first start it
and them ever 5-10 minutes or so. Do I have a leak or is that how it works?
Is the rear end suppose to maintain the air when the car is off, overnight?

About what mine does. It pumps up (semi-loudly) when you first start
the car. I never noticed that it continued every 5-10 minutes,
however. I'll listen more carefully.

Is the ride in yours extremely soft and bouncy? This is the plushest
ride I've ever felt in any car. Shocks are OK, too.

My vehicles ride seems firm to me. Not soft or bouncy. When I hit a
semi-large bump, it feels kind of like a canoe going over a waterfall and
landing flat.

Thank you,

Jesse
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[Jesse]

Tom,
BTW, Do you know what kind of brakes are on your (OUR) 1989 New Yorker? I
have a Chilton's manual and it call for either Bendex 6, Bendex 10 and Steve
1988 New Yorker calls for a Bosch system.

Jesse

 

[Tom Miller]

| Would you mind if I took a picture of mine tomorrow and put it up for you to
| view? Maybe, you can check your to see if the wire goes anywhere on yours.
|

I'd be happy to look but better to send the photo to my email address
(remove xx from address in header). Posting binaries here is frowned
upon.

| Snip, Snip...
|
| (3) During deceleration, at low speed, I heat what sounds like a slight tap.
| (sounds like the turn signal relay going on and off Or like the speedometer
| gear clunking) It's definitely coming from the dash area. Anyone know what
| it might be?
| >
| > Dunno. But the engine is pretty loud in general and sound insulation
| > is minimal (especially compared to our '87 Mercedes 420 SEL).
| >
| > The digital speedo on mine doesn't come on once in a while when you
| > start the car, but comes back on after a little driving.
|
| My engine sounds normal. (not loud at all)

Maybe I'm spoiled

| My Digital dash works great. I especially like the Climate Control. Never
| had such a feature before.

Our climate control works fine in the winter (heat) but the AC, which
is ice cold, seems to lag in the summertime, so the cabin first gets
slightly too cold and then slightly too warm. Won't hold the temp
steady. It's no problem driving around town, but on the highway it can
get chilly and call for a lot of fiddling with the temp. I've had the
mechanic look at it but they can't find any problem.

The speedometer problem is very intermittent -- maybe 5 times a year.

I like the car, by the way. Super comfortable to ride in and to drive,
good in snow, holds the road well, surprising amount of zip. I love
the look -- feels like driving an airport limo (mine is midnight
blue). A real hoot. Not sure how well constructed it is, however. My
father-in-law had to have the transmission replaced under warranty at
just under 20k miles.

|
| Snip, Snip...
| (4) The Rear level system pump up for about 10 secs when I first start it
| and them ever 5-10 minutes or so. Do I have a leak or is that how it works?
| Is the rear end suppose to maintain the air when the car is off, overnight?
| >
| > About what mine does. It pumps up (semi-loudly) when you first start
| > the car. I never noticed that it continued every 5-10 minutes,
| > however. I'll listen more carefully.
| >
| > Is the ride in yours extremely soft and bouncy? This is the plushest
| > ride I've ever felt in any car. Shocks are OK, too.
|
| My vehicles ride seems firm to me. Not soft or bouncy. When I hit a
| semi-large bump, it feels kind of like a canoe going over a waterfall and
| landing flat.

Hmmm.

 

[Tom Miller]

| Tom,
| BTW, Do you know what kind of brakes are on your (OUR) 1989 New Yorker? I
| have a Chilton's manual and it call for either Bendex 6, Bendex 10 and Steve
| 1988 New Yorker calls for a Bosch system.
|
| Jesse

No, I don't. Mine are not ABS however.

 

[Jesse]

Tom and anyone else who can help,
Here are (2) pics of the wire I mentioned.

http://www.majeer.com/cny/wire/

The wire in question, comes out from the same batch of wires that connect up
to the starter. Please take a look at yours and tell me where it goes.
Better yet, if you have a digital camera, maybe you can take a pic of where
it goes and email it to me.

Thank you in advance.

Jesse

 

[Steve Stone]

I just took a look at the factory shop manual for my 88 3.0 New Yorker.

Some models came with an oil pressure sensor and an OIL LEVEL sensor. I bet
it was cheaper / easier in the long run to make a single wiring harness with
that OIL LEVEL sensor cable than two harnesses.

Deceleration noises..

Just wild guesses

CV joint noise ?
Brake noise ?
worn suspension bushings ?
road debris rattling around in crevasses ?

I once found a mummified mouse curled up around a suspension control arm
right behind a metal brake shield.

Steve



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[Geoff]

Some models came with an oil pressure sensor and an OIL LEVEL sensor. I bet
it was cheaper / easier in the long run to make a single wiring harness with
that OIL LEVEL sensor cable than two harnesses.

Yeah. The rule of thumb here is that there are sometimes extra connectors
on the harness if your particular car doesn't have EVERY available dooddad.
No failures, no idiot lights on the dash? Then just ignore it.

Remember, too, that the connectors are arranged so that their termination
points are pretty close to where the harness comes by. You'd be able to see
where it plugged in if it was really supposed to be connected on your car.

--Geoff

 

[Tom Miller]

|
| > Some models came with an oil pressure sensor and an OIL LEVEL sensor. I
| bet
| > it was cheaper / easier in the long run to make a single wiring harness
| with
| > that OIL LEVEL sensor cable than two harnesses.
| >
|
| Yeah. The rule of thumb here is that there are sometimes extra connectors
| on the harness if your particular car doesn't have EVERY available dooddad.
| No failures, no idiot lights on the dash? Then just ignore it.
|
| Remember, too, that the connectors are arranged so that their termination
| points are pretty close to where the harness comes by. You'd be able to see
| where it plugged in if it was really supposed to be connected on your car.
|
| --Geoff
|
|

I looked at mine -- same model, year, etc. -- and found it looked just
like Jesse's. Connected to nothing.