69 383 Ply Roadrunner Top Speed?

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  1. Whats the top speed of a 69 383 rr auto with 3:23 rear end?
     
    Percy J. Ellington Von Wellinton IIII, Sep 6, 2004
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    Hemi4268 Guest

    Hi

    A little shy of 140.

    Larry
     
    Hemi4268, Sep 6, 2004
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    Dan Larsen Guest

    Larry opines:

    Maybe, . . . with a shiney, slick new aerodynamic body, a huge diet
    losing at least 500 lbs, a perfect tune-up, and a 7% downhill grade, and a
    steady, 25 mph tailwind. Having owned one, brand new, the Dodge Superbee
    version, I can attest that Larry's still full of it, and knows not, . . . of
    that which he opines.


    God Bless,
    Dan'L

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    Dan Larsen, Sep 6, 2004
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    Carl Byrns Guest

    Depends on how many beers the owner has under his belt and how deep
    the BS is.<g>

    Realistically, probably around 120 mph in stock trim, but not for
    long- the cars weren't designed for continuous high-speed operation
    and something would fail rather quickly, likely with fatal results.

    -Carl
     
    Carl Byrns, Sep 6, 2004
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    John Kunkel Guest

    In order to run 140 the motor would have to be turning 6100 rpm (figuring 5%
    converter slip). Quite a task in 1st gear let alone high gear.
     
    John Kunkel, Sep 6, 2004
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    Hemi4268 Guest

    Hi
    If you will notice my friend I said A LITTLE SHY OF 140. A good healthy 383
    mag can easly do about 5800 rpm and hold it. That means that the motor will go
    very quickly to 125 and then pull over 130 slowly heading on it's way to 140.

    Yes personal young dumb experience.

    Ask any old cop who had a 383 mag 4door Bbody and yes they were made. The big
    CHP C bodies with 440's would do about the same.

    God you are an idot.

    Larry
    Larry
     
    Hemi4268, Sep 6, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    Well, it depends a bit what options the car had installed. The low
    numeric rear axle and wide ratio 4 speed combination WAS significantly
    faster than the standard setup, although it suffered a bit in
    accelleration. It was very easy to do 120MPH in third gear. How much
    shy of 140 in 4th is hard to say.
     
    Guest, Sep 6, 2004
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    Guest Guest


    I had missed the first post, where automatic was specified - along
    with 323 gears.
    The 3 speed automatic with 323 gears was "significantly " slower.
    Mabee 120 on a real good day.
     
    Guest, Sep 6, 2004
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  9. Or add a JATO and who knows.... :)

    Richard

    http://www.the-clearing.org/Jato/rockit.htm
     
    Richard Smith, Sep 6, 2004
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    Hemi4268 Guest

    . It was very easy to do 120MPH in third gear. How much
    I can see some personal experience here. Yes your right. The B body with a
    healthy 383 mag would easly run to 120 and even 125. Although it took some
    roadway to get it past 130.

    I can hear that 383 singing now. Going through several deep 5000+ rpm tones
    from 125 on it's way to something just shy of 140.

    Larry
     
    Hemi4268, Sep 6, 2004
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    Carl Byrns Guest

    Not likely. The air drag at those speeds is enormous and those old
    magnetic-slip speedos read a lot higher than true speed (like 10- 15
    mph higher).
    A 383 installed in the car with the factory exhaust and air cleaner
    probably made around 250hp, SAE net- that's not a lot of oomph to push
    a 4000+ pound brick through the air.
    All the muscle cars had grossly inflated horsepower and top speed
    capabilities- the manufacturers did it to sell cars and the motor
    press went along with it to sell magazines- but those numbers just
    don't hold up on a dyno or on the track. Hell, a lot of newer
    econoboxes can run the kind of ET's that those pony cars used to post.

    -Carl
     
    Carl Byrns, Sep 7, 2004
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    John Kunkel Guest

    140.

    What a motor can turn in 1st gear and what it can turn in high gear are
    worlds apart considering parasitic drag increases exponentially. If you
    consider 120 mph a "little shy of 140" then you must have a penis a "little
    shy" of 12 inches.
    Considering your propensity for bullshit I'll take your claim with a grain
    of salt. In my equally dumb youth my near new '68 GTX with a 440 would
    barely do 130 with 3.23 gears and I gave it a good run at sea level on a
    cool day.
    440's yes, 383's no. A '69 CHP 440 Polara with 2.76 gears and 28" pursuit
    radials would barely touch 140.
    No, that's your domain.
     
    John Kunkel, Sep 7, 2004
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    Hemi4268 Guest

    A 383 installed in the car with the factory exhaust and air cleaner
    Although some stripper RR's weight in at around 3250, many BB were at that 4000
    lb level.

    And sure it was a brick but even a brick with a tail wind will do some speed.
    I think some people in Florida have actually seen this last week.

    So I still say a RR with 323 gears would do just shy of 140. If it be only 132
    because of speedo errors so be it.

    Larry
     
    Hemi4268, Sep 7, 2004
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    Hemi4268 Guest

    In my equally dumb youth my near new '68 GTX with a 440 would
    I would believe that since GTX's usually ran closer to 4000 lbs then 3000 lbs,
    that 130 figure is correct. Where as, many stripper RR's bounced around the
    3250 weight figure. So your GTX going 130 would be about the same as a
    stripper RR going 130 pulling a 700 lbs trailer.

    Larry
     
    Hemi4268, Sep 7, 2004
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    John Kunkel Guest

    The only way you'll find a 3250 lb. RR is if it has no motor. The difference
    between a 383 and a 440 is about 80 lbs.
    The RR and the GTX are based on the same Belvedere unibody, same trans, same
    rear end. Where's the 700+ lbs. difference you claim?
     
    John Kunkel, Sep 8, 2004
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    Hemi4268 Guest

    The only way you'll find a 3250 lb. RR is if it has no motor. The difference
    Well so you say. Although I am gald you now see it my way. Years ago we had a
    big discussion about the weight difference between a 383 and 440. I said all
    you need to do is install an aluminum manifold and water pump assembly on that
    440 and you have a 440 motor lighter then a 383. Now it looks like that is
    true which I knew all along.

    Larry
     
    Hemi4268, Sep 8, 2004
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    John Kunkel Guest

    See what your way? Where's the answer to my challenge to show the 700 lb.
    difference?
    You were wrong then and you're wrong now. The weight of an iron intake and
    WP is about 38 and 20 respectively for a total of 58 lbs. The equivalents in
    aluminum are 13 and 8 for as total of 21. (Actual weights on a digital
    scale)

    If you remove your shoes you'll count a difference of 37 lb. Hardly enough
    to equal the weight let alone make the 440 lighter.
     
    John Kunkel, Sep 8, 2004
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  18. Percy J. Ellington Von Wellinton IIII

    Hemi4268 Guest

    If you remove your shoes you'll count a difference of 37 lb. Hardly enough
    That other weigth is around you head or maybe even your behind since you such a
    fat ass.

    I am not going to go back and forth about weight. If you think a fully loaded
    GTX is only 80 lbs heaver then a stripper Roadrunner go ahead. Although, most
    of the 700 lbs could be made up by your fat ass alone.

    Larry
     
    Hemi4268, Sep 8, 2004
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  19. Percy J. Ellington Von Wellinton IIII

    John Kunkel Guest

    English as a second language? Never said the CAR weight difference was 80
    lbs, engine weight was what I referred to. You just can't stand it when your
    off-the-wall bogus claims are countered with verifiable fact.

    In desperation you try to make it seem that I'm comparing a loaded GTX to a
    stripper RR. Next you'll claim I compared a /6 Dart to an Imperial. Don't
    you realize the entire thread is there for all to read?
     
    John Kunkel, Sep 9, 2004
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  20. Percy J. Ellington Von Wellinton IIII

    Hemi4268 Guest

    Hi

    So your facts are verifiable! Well give the manual and page number to any
    facts you might spout.

    Larry
     
    Hemi4268, Sep 9, 2004
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