600 mile range Federal law needed

[Don]

What proof do you have that Katrina did not affect the gas prices? Katrina shut down all of the Gulf of Mexico oil production, which produces 1/3 of the nations energy needs. 9 refineries were shut down for at least a week and at present 6 refineries are not running. 2 are in the process of starting up. 4 still have flood water in them and cannot begin to start up until repairs and clean up are completed. This equates to less gasoline being produced and less gasoline means less supply for the same demand. Supply and demand will set the price. Simple economics.

Sarge

Ever watch C-Span? It's been on several times this past week.

Stay with the times dude.

"Fox News" is nothing but lies straight from the liars telling the lies over there in the White House.

 

[R Steenerson]

Hi,
I think it would be great to have a 600 mile range on a gas tank. I have been driving a Taurus for the last 3 years and the range for city driving is only 200 miles. The Taurus is a good car but, the most annoying thing about it is that I need to watch the "trick" gas guage so closely. Full is about a quarter inch past F. Empty, is when the needle is around the quarter mark. The needle on half means there are about 3 gallons left. People have asked me if I am sure about this and I am because even though I have never run out, I have seen the unmistakeable signs of being close to running out including sputters and the like. The issue with being able to calculate a 600 mile range though would be that it would need to rely on accurate MPG figures which are not always the case. MPGs vary based on terrain, weather and other factors.

 

[Don]

Snipped the bs<

Yeah yeah - heard it all before from the lunatic fringe.

Bill Putney

So you actually listen to yourself?

Maybe if you'd pay more attention to what is going on in this country and get off that Faux News, you'd learn a thing or two.

 

[Don]

Learn the facts. The voting machines did work the idiots voting could not vote properly. Unfortunately for you, popular vote does matter as much in a presidential election. Then again it could be to your benefit since if we counted popular vote some politicians would never get elected because the big cities would control the vote.

By the way every recount showed Bush won.

Sarge

Again, you need to learn the facts. Bush NEVER won a federal election. Only in the recounts that favored bush did he win. And those were so mucked up just to get those figures. Not to mention the illegal purge of legally registered voters. And yes, the machines were faulty. Still are. If they were so accurate, then why is it the republikan party refuses to allow a paper trail added to all of the machines used?

 

[Don]

snip the bs<

And for pete's sake stop crossposting.

Sure, just tell me where the original post came from and where and when this became cross posted?????????

 

[Don]

Hi,
I think it would be great to have a 600 mile range on a gas tank. I have been driving a Taurus for the last 3 years and the range for city driving is only 200 miles. The Taurus is a good car but, the most annoying thing about it is that I need to watch the "trick" gas guage so closely. Full is about a quarter inch past F. Empty, is when the needle is around the quarter mark. The needle on half means there are about 3 gallons left. People have asked me if I am sure about this and I am because even though I have never run out, I have seen the unmistakeable signs of being close to running out including sputters and the like. The issue with being able to calculate a 600 mile range though would be that it would need to rely on accurate MPG figures which are not always the case. MPGs vary based on terrain, weather and other factors.

I once had a fuel gage go out in my old Plymouth (not so) Reliant. I never new how much gas I had but I always kept track of the mileage. I know the way I drive a vehicle and I knew I could go so far before needing to fill up. This went on for almost two years, spring, summer, autumn and winter, WI to CA. Different conditions do mean different MPG but it can be compensated for if one knows his vehicle.

I also think the original poster may have meant that a 600 MPG Rating would have been under certain conditions. Look at any ad in a magazine where they claim such and such MPG. There is always the disclaimer about conditions and how you drive.

 

[Peter A. Stavrakoglou]

Ever watch C-Span? It's been on several times this past week.

Stay with the times dude.

"Fox News" is nothing but lies straight from the liars telling the lies over there in the White House.

A little more originalty than some regurgitated Al Franken lines woudld be better.

 

[Bill Putney]

I think it would be great to have a 600 mile range on a gas tank. I have been driving a Taurus for the last 3 years and the range for city driving is only 200 miles.

You're asking for 600 miles city driving? So you want a 33 gallon tank? I don't think you would be happy with that, and when full, your milage would drop dut to the weight.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

 

[Bill Putney]

Again, you need to learn the facts. Bush NEVER won a federal election. Only in the recounts that favored bush did he win. And those were so mucked up just to get those figures. Not to mention the illegal purge of legally registered voters. And yes, the machines were faulty. Still are. If they were so accurate, then why is it the republikan party refuses to allow a paper trail added to all of the machines used?

.... and like I said you think that the lunar landing was faked and that Bush prayed Katrina into being and hitting New Orleans. Again - as long as we have people like you speaking publicly on behalf of the libs, the Democrat pary has an uphill battle. All we conservatives ask is that you keep up the good work.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

 

[Bill Putney]

So you actually listen to yourself?

Maybe if you'd pay more attention to what is going on in this country and get off that Faux News, you'd learn a thing or two.

So I was right. You won't answer specific questions because the truth isn't what you want to hear, nor is it in you.

Specifically you will not address if SH had WMDs? How were thousands of Kurds killed in Iraq? How many times did SH invade Kuwait? What did Bill Clinton say about SH and what we should do about him? Was the UN resoution unanymous? Did SH support terrorism by offering families of suicide bombers rewards? Did SH support Al Quida?

Bill Putney
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[Don]

So I was right.

Actuall, you were wrong again.

You won't answer specific questions because the truth isn't what you want to hear, nor is it in you.

I'll answer your questions. You may not like hearing the truth, but read on.

Specifically you will not address if SH had WMDs?

Absolutely not. At least not after he was forced to get rid of them after daddy bush attacked in '91. Haven't you been listening to the truth? Hans Blix said no before the war in started in '03 and all of the intelligence reports since have said he did not have them. Haven't heard of the "Downing Street Memo's" either have you. Proof your boy cooked the books to gain support for his illegal oil grab.

How were thousands of Kurds killed in Iraq?

With WMD supplied to him by Reagan/Bush/Rummsfeld. Again, those were no longer in his possession in '03.

How many times did SH invade Kuwait?

Once. And that was with the permission of the first bush administration.

What did Bill Clinton say about SH and what we should do about him?

He said the UN resolutions were working during his time in office and Saddam wasn't threatening anybody except the British and US warplanes flying over his soverign country on a daily basis.

Was the UN resoution unanymous?

It was unanymous that bush NOT attack Iraq.

Did SH support terrorism by offering families of suicide bombers rewards?

I can't prove otherwise and neither can you. It has been reported to be so, but then we were also told he had WMD which you know was proven fasle.

Did SH support Al Quida?

No. Saddam was and possibly still is a secular Muslim. Al Quaida is run by the person who trully attacked this country four years ago, Osama been Forgotten. Osama was not in cahoots with Sadam. In fact he hated Sadam because of his secular views. To Osama, Sadam was an infedel for not following Islam like Osama and his fundamentalists want.

 

[Don]

... and like I said you think that the lunar landing was faked and that Bush prayed Katrina into being and hitting New Orleans. Again - as long as we have people like you speaking publicly on behalf of the libs, the Democrat pary has an uphill battle. All we conservatives ask is that you keep up the good work.

Bill Putney

I really don't care if the lunar landing was faked.

I don't think bush or any religious fanatic could pray any hurricane into existence, much less where it's going to hit.

I only believe in facts. Not the idiotic ideas you have of us liberals.

 

[Don]

... and like I said you think that the lunar landing was faked and that Bush prayed Katrina into being and hitting New Orleans. Again - as long as we have people like you speaking publicly on behalf of the libs, the Democrat pary has an uphill battle. All we conservatives ask is that you keep up the good work.

Bill Putney

Bill, are you a religious man? Are you a so-called christian?

If so, just how in the hell do you think you're going to get into heaven by badmouthing liberals? Remember, jesus was the biggest liberal of them all.

 

[Peter A. Stavrakoglou]

Bill, are you a religious man? Are you a so-called christian?

If so, just how in the hell do you think you're going to get into heaven by badmouthing liberals? Remember, jesus was the biggest liberal of them all.

Please not this tripe. You're probably one of those who claim Joseph and Mary were homeless too when Jesus was born.

 

[Bill Putney]

Actuall, you were wrong again.

I'll answer your questions. You may not like hearing the truth, but read on.

I love hearing the truth.

Absolutely not. At least not after he was forced to get rid of them after daddy bush attacked in '91. Haven't you been listening to the truth? Hans Blix said no before the war in started in '03 and all of the intelligence reports since have said he did not have them. Haven't heard of the "Downing Street Memo's" either have you. Proof your boy cooked the books to gain support for his illegal oil grab.

Per the UN, he was required to account for the weapons that were on the books, and he never did.

With WMD supplied to him by Reagan/Bush/Rummsfeld. Again, those were no longer in his possession in '03.

But there were more WMD's than that.

Once. And that was with the permission of the first bush administration.

Like I say - keep up the lunacy. Only makes us look good.

He said the UN resolutions were working during his time in office and Saddam wasn't threatening anybody except the British and US warplanes flying over his soverign country on a daily basis.

No - actually WJC said that Sadam needed to be removed from power.
Where have *you* been?

It was unanymous that bush NOT attack Iraq.

He said, making it up as he wnet along.

I can't prove otherwise and neither can you. It has been reported to be so, but then we were also told he had WMD which you know was proven fasle.

Yes - provable. Non-sequitur.

Re: WMD's - as I said, he was required by the UN to account for them and couldn't. But you will deny that I'm sure, or thow in another non-sequitur.

Did SH support Al Quida?

No. Saddam was and possibly still is a secular Muslim. Al Quaida is run by the person who trully attacked this country four years ago, Osama been Forgotten. Osama was not in cahoots with Sadam. In fact he hated Sadam because of his secular views. To Osama, Sadam was an infedel for not following Islam like Osama and his fundamentalists want.

Yes - provided training facilities and assylum. "Enemy of my enemy..." kind of thing.

Bill Putney
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[Bill Putney]

Bill, are you a religious man? Are you a so-called christian?

If so, just how in the hell do you think you're going to get into heaven by badmouthing liberals? Remember, jesus was the biggest liberal of them all.

You know nothing of true Christianity if you think not badmouthing liberals will get you into heaven. Sorry - but that's not the criteria.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

 

[Warlock]

Most people trying to be humorous don't simultaneously give the impression of simultaneously foaming at the mouth and speaking gibberish.

only been hanging out in automotive-related newsgroups, huh? if you consider his postings to be frothy, you have been extremely sheltered.

Based on what. You've got nothing - and because of that, you won't come back with anything honest if at all.

i won't speak to the issue of freedom of expression, but in regard to virtually everything else -- the war in iraq, the economy, immigration, irresponsible tax cuts and while ballooning the deficit, the pathetic response to hurricane katrina, this administration is nothing short of criminal. as the saying goes, "if you're not outraged, you're not paying attention." i would consider it frivolous to take anybody by the hand and lead them to the mountains of evidence regarding this administration's blunders, lies and malfeasance. anybody who doesn't realize what's happening is either wilfully blind or woefully stupid.

Yeah - he's so intelligent he can't speak for himself and can't even answer a direct question (which you also make no attempt to answer - but it's understandable because - once again - you've got nothin' of substance to answer with).

what was the question? i was simply responding to your apparent lack of humor.

We're all impressed. But not in the way you imagine. I guess you and Dave don't like them expressing themselves.

they can express themselves all they like; but it's been my experience that rabid bush-backers are your typical "crash beer can on forehead, thump your chest, kill em all and let my non-existent god sort it out" kinda guys. they wear buffalo-check flannel sweaters, bad haircuts and have a vocabulary somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 words. i consider it to be good form to let them know that any bullying behavior on their part will be met with the reduction of their head to a pulpy and bloody mass. they understand that. other than that, they can express away.

Typcial libs. You want to

be able to say anything you want, but when anyone responds back in a disapproving manner, we're suppressing your freedom of expression. But - again - that and the ultra hyperbole is what is hurting the democrats terribly.

I read an article by someone who was helping the New Orleans victims, and was starting to help a woman who was hunting for some relatives, but when the person writing the article saw a Bush bumper sticker on their car, they drove off and left them. That's your free-thinking liberal for you.

i'd do the same. i don't help the walking dead.

 

[Don]

I love hearing the truth.

By your replies, you wouldn't know it if it jumped up and bit you in your ass.

Per the UN, he was required to account for the weapons that were on the books, and he never did.

Yes, yes. Just as bush said. Tell me, how was Sadam supposed to prove he didn't have what he didn't have? That is like saying, show me you have something in your hand when you have nothing in your hand. It's all a play on words to make Sadam look guilty to the imbeciles that follow bush's line of thinking.

But there were more WMD's than that.

Where. Hiding in his underwear? Sadam had none. End of story.

Like I say - keep up the lunacy. Only makes us look good.

I guess you're gonna try telling me Sadam invaded Kuwait 5000 times in the last 100 years? You are insane.

No - actually WJC said that Sadam needed to be removed from power. Where have *you* been?

Clinton never said that.

He said, making it up as he wnet along.

Go back and check your history. Don't you remember you fools putting down the French because they voted against bush's war? So did the Germans, the Russians and the Chineese. All members of the UN Security Council. Jeez. And I thought you knew some facts.

Yes - provable. Non-sequitur.

Like I said. It's not provable.

Re: WMD's - as I said, he was required by the UN to account for them and couldn't. But you will deny that I'm sure, or thow in another non-sequitur.

As I said above, how was he supposed to prove the glass was empty when there was nothing inside to show?

Yes - provided training facilities and assylum. "Enemy of my enemy..." kind of thing.

Bullshit. There were never any Al Quaida in Iraq before bush got his war hardon and made a mess of everything getting 1896 American service men and women killed because he lied. Even that Zarqauwi (spelling?) dude said that he has just become a follower of Al Quaida, and that was after the war started. Didn't Fox News tell you that? I guess not. They won't tell you the truth if it makes their imbecile look bad.

 

[Don]

Please not this tripe. You're probably one of those who claim Joseph and Mary were homeless too when Jesus was born.

Why would anyone really care???????????????

 

[Warlock]

Please not this tripe.

i agree. all this tripe about some comic book hero for adults floating around the sky and giving a damn about a buncha bald primates is just plain pathetic.