300C - Bitchin' fuzzmobile

Discussion in 'Chrysler 300' started by Dave Gower, May 10, 2004.

  1. Dave Gower

    Dave Gower Guest

    Looking at TV ads of the new 300, and thinking about the black one I saw at
    the local dealer, I can't help thinking that here we have the new icon of
    road-going police authority. Imagine one of those babies with oversized
    bumpers, bull-horns on the front fenders, a white door with a huge Redneck
    County Sheriff's Department logo, high-tech lightbar and bad-ass blackwall
    tires. All backed up with that 0-60 in 5.3 seconds hemi. Jackie Gleason
    would run Bert Reynolds into the dirt every time.

    Seriously, police have been complaining for some time about the shrinking
    variety of large rear-drive sedans available. Well now they can smile all
    the way to the donut shop. Wouldn't be surprised if that was part of
    Chrysler's game plan.
     
    Dave Gower, May 10, 2004
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  2. Dave Gower

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Not only are you ignorant enough to post an image to a non .binary
    group, but you did it four times. Sheesh.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 10, 2004
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  3. Dave Gower

    MoPar Man Guest

    I searched for a link to the .JPG image I had. I would have rather
    posted the link rather than the .JPG itself. But I think this rather
    unique image was worthy of posting. The differentiation of text and
    binary groups is, arguably, more of a historic legacy than a current
    necessity.
    Interesting.

    My ISP (Sympatico) has some sort of posting mechanism that (I though)
    prohibited large posts. If you notice my 4 posts, they are each
    successively smaller (reflecting an increasing amount of compression I
    was applying to the .JPG image). Only 1 post (the last one) actually
    showed up on my ISP's news server. I assumed that my server had
    rejected the previous 3 because they were too big. I had no idea they
    were actually distributed to the internet at large.
     
    MoPar Man, May 11, 2004
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  4. Dave Gower

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Hardly. Many of us still are hobbled with dial up lines and loading
    these images takes a long time. Fortunately, after the secone message
    in your string, I figured you were a newbie who didn't know how to post
    properly and just marked the rest of your messages as read.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 11, 2004
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  5. Next time, don't be lazy. If you don't find the image already existing in
    webspace, put it up in your own.
    That is your (incorrect) opinion, and not your decision to make.
    ....nothing to do with your improper posting behaviour. Please don't do it
    again.
    Of course you didn't...
     
    Daniel J. Stern, May 11, 2004
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  6. Dave Gower

    CopperTop Guest

    I have no problem whith him posting an image. Doubt many others did either,
    I may be wrong. But it was good to see it, I'm glad you did Mopar Man.
    Thanks.
     
    CopperTop, May 11, 2004
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  7. Dave Gower

    Art Guest

    The reason why binary posts should not be made to text groups is that they
    will not be visible to some people. Many ISp's block the downloading of
    binariers from text groups.
     
    Art, May 11, 2004
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  8. Dave Gower

    Gene Poon Guest

    =================================

    As long as the ENGINEERS are not saddled with German bean counting.
    Like that which specified standard brake fluid instead of the high-temp
    silicone fluid that the engineers really wanted in the 2002-2003 Dodge
    Intrepid police package. The ones that had brakes catch on fire due to
    excess heat igniting the brake fluid.

    Those Germans wouldn't cut corners like that on their beloved
    Mercedes-Benz, would they?

    Maybe they do. Current Consumer Reports says the Mercedes-Benz E-Class
    is among only nine cars that "earn" their lowest reliability rating.
    The worst? The BMW 7-series.

    In comparison, the Dodge Intrepid has been rated average in reliability.

    -GP
     
    Gene Poon, May 11, 2004
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  9. Dave Gower

    Dave Gower Guest

    Well my ISP blocked his reply so on my screen it looks like you are calling
    me ignorant, not Mopar Man. Thanks loads.
     
    Dave Gower, May 11, 2004
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  10. Dave Gower

    Jack Baruth Guest

    This is not a binaries newsgroup. Therefore, it is always wrong to
    post binaries. This is about as simple as life on the Internet gets.

    You may ask, "Why? Afterall, we're all using Outlook Express and cable
    modems..." *You* may be, but most of us are not. Our overseas friends,
    who often pay per minute for dialup, are very poorly served by
    no-warning binaries in NGs. I personally use slrn to read news, others
    use tin or rn. None of those standard readers have graphics
    capabilities. This group is for everyone with an interest in Chrysler
    products, not a narrow group of Windows/broadband users who feel above
    the RFCs.

    If MoParMan feels justified posting his "unique" binary, others will
    as well. Eventually this will become an undeclared binaries newsgroup.
    At that point, many admins, particularly non-US ones, will take it off
    their list of approved groups, because the cost to receive and carry
    it will be too high.

    Images on this NG should be hyperlinks.
     
    Jack Baruth, May 11, 2004
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  11. Dave Gower

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Newsgroup etiquette isn't based on what any one person has a problem
    with or not. It was established long ago for good reasons. Only mental
    midgets intentionally ignore it.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 11, 2004
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  12. Dave Gower

    Matt Whiting Guest

    If he hadn't posted a binary to a group not intended for binaries, your
    ISP probably wouldn't have blocked it. I can't help it if you are
    offended by a post that obviously wasn't addressed to you.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 11, 2004
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  13. Dave Gower

    Bill Putney Guest


    FWIW, the Google archives of this ng also exclude MoPar Man's posts with
    the binaries.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, May 11, 2004
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  14. Dave Gower

    MoPar Man Guest

    Most likely because Google's archiver recognizes the included Mime
    component as non-text and therefore decides not to archive the entire
    post. I doubt it has anything to do with a binary attachment in a
    "text-only" news group. I'd be surprised if Google archives any posts
    with a Mime attachment - regardless of whether it's a "binary" group
    or not.
     
    MoPar Man, May 12, 2004
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  15. Dave Gower

    MoPar Man Guest

    Um, wrong.

    I've experimented with the length of posts that Sypmatico accepts
    (using plain text posts) and the limit is around 19k. Doesn't matter
    what the content is (plain text or Mime).

    If my news server didn't accept a "binary post to a non-binary group"
    then it wouldn't have accepted ANY of my 4 posts (but it DID accept my
    last post). Why it forwarded the first 3 (without storing a local
    copy of those) I have no idea.

    I doubt that any residential ISP news-servers follow a rule of
    rejecting messages with included binaries posted to non-binary groups.
     
    MoPar Man, May 12, 2004
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  16. Dave Gower

    MoPar Man Guest

    Does your news reader show you a list of message subjects AND their
    corresponding message size and/or line-length? If so, then it's easy
    to pick and choose which posts to read based on that.
    Yea, 14 years ago I was reading and posting with rn or trn on an SGI.
    Then we got Next work-stations and could piece binary images
    together. Wow - that was cool.

    And by the way, many of our "overseas friends" (in UK, Germany, NL,
    France, BE, etc) have DSL or cable connections just like us (and their
    residential computers on networks like BTN and Wanadoo are just as
    infected with trojans that spew e-mail spam all over the internet as
    our computers on Rogers and Comcast and Road Runner for example).
    Look. I would have rather posted a link (if I could find it) rather
    than the binary. I made the binary pretty small as it was.
    We should all stop talking about this before Nomen or Micanic starts
    paying attention and starts posting pics here as well then.
     
    MoPar Man, May 12, 2004
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  17. Dave Gower

    kokomokid Guest

    If they build a "decontented" 300 with the V8, but with vinyl bench seats,
    black steel wheels, manual AC, low end trim, etc., they should be able to
    sell a lot of them as police cars. The cops would love them compared to the
    Crown Vics. As they now exist, a 300C would cost thousands of dollars more
    than a Crown Vic so there might be taxpayer rovolts in states or cities
    where a lot of 300C's were bought as cop cars.
     
    kokomokid, May 12, 2004
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  18. Dave Gower

    MoPar Man Guest

    In other words - Plymouth?

    Sorry, ain't got no Plymouth any more. And Dodge isin't going to get
    a "de-contented" 300-style sedan either (the Daimler guys made sure of
    that).
    Now were did I put that file... :0

    Seriously, how many of you out there swore (as an unmarked crown vic
    passed you on the highway) that you'd never buy a car that could be
    mistaken for a cop car (or that only senior citizens would drive?)

    The thought of driving the same make and model car that my local
    donut-eating, radar-pointing cop is cruising around in makes my skin
    crawl.
     
    MoPar Man, May 12, 2004
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  19. See below.

    DAS
    --
    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
    ---

    FROM DAS: No!
    FROM DAS: Yes, but that doesn't alter the fact that many people use
    dial-up. In Britain we are particularly behind in introducing low-cost
    broadband. In the office I have a nominal 512 kbps connection (ADSL), but
    at home it's a regular dial-up with a max speed of about 50 kbps. (At my
    office typical speeds are only about 35 - 40 kbps.) I used to find that
    downloading these newsgroup msgs took ages until I discovered that my ISP
    maintains text only servers, so that's what I used now.
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, May 12, 2004
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  20. Dave Gower

    Jack Baruth Guest

    I corrected your above post in the interest of accuracy. :)

    There is a tremendous market out there in the US for low-cost,
    high-power, traditional RWD cars. Right now most of that market buys
    the cheapest V8 pickup they can get. Seen a lot of regular-cab Ram
    1500 HEMIs around? I sure have.

    But here's the problem. The way cars are manufactured now, the
    additional costs in speccing and designing all that low-end stuff
    might eat up most of your savings. If you only have to design one A/C
    unit, it's pretty darned expensive to come up with a manual one as
    well... the R&D might outweigh the costs of having a few chips and
    sensors in there.

    I don't agree with MoParMan on binaries, but I suspect both of us
    would like to see Plymouth back. They could call their LX car the
    Satellite, and the high-performance version the... hmm... I'm sure
    they could *beep beep* think of something...
     
    Jack Baruth, May 12, 2004
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