2006 T&C Fuel Gauge Inaccurate?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by hoofdpijn, Sep 26, 2006.

  1. hoofdpijn

    hoofdpijn Guest

    Does anyone know of any issues with these?

    I have T&C base model with the 3.3. Spec says 20 gallon fuel tank but
    even when on empty I've never been able to get even 16 gallons in the
    tank. Mileage display shows 19 mpg around town. The most miles I've
    squeezed out of a tank (before I chickened out with the gauge so low)
    is 260. At that point I was able to get 15.7 gallons in the tank.

    Any known issues with gauges or tank underfill on these?
     
    hoofdpijn, Sep 26, 2006
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  2. hoofdpijn

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Does it go all the way to "F" when you top off the tank?
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 27, 2006
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  3. hoofdpijn

    Ken Weitzel Guest


    Hi...

    Don't know what country you're in with your gmail address, but...

    With all respect, is it possible that you're confusing US gallons
    with Canadian gallons? The numbers you quote are so very very
    close that's it's more than likely :)

    If the spec says you can hold 20 (US) gallons, it'll be full at
    15.7 (Canadian) gallons

    Take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Sep 27, 2006
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  4. hoofdpijn

    damnnickname Guest

    If you take a look at the tank and see how long it is you will figure out
    why it is doing that. If you have (say 2 inches) of fuel at the bottom
    plus the reserve in the tank it will not take a full 20 gallons. It has
    always been this way.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    damnnickname, Sep 27, 2006
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  5. hoofdpijn

    hoofdpijn Guest

    Thanks for the info Glenn.

    So, are you saying that more than 1/4 of the tank's capacity is
    unuseable or that I can safely ingnore the fuel gauge for 75 miles
    after it shows empty? I also have a 94 Voyager and I easily get over
    350 miles on a tank in that old oil-burning thing.

    Instead of filling up last night when I hit empty, I waited until I got
    about halfway to work this morning. The needle on the gauge was buried
    in the red and the low fuel warning had been on since I left the house.
    I managed to get 16.07 gallons in the tank with 275 miles on the trip
    odo.

    4 gallons seems like a lot of gas to be left in the tank with the gauge
    showing me bone dry. If that's the only quirk I have to deal with on
    this car then so be it. It's a great vehicle otherwise. It's just kind
    of a pain to have to stop for gas so often. I get more miles on a tank
    in my Miata. A minivan is supposed to be able to haul my butt across
    country without stopping every couple of hours for gas. :)

    I'm in the US by the way and the spec is straight out of my US owners
    manual and the US Chrysler web site. Good thought though.
     
    hoofdpijn, Sep 27, 2006
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  6. hoofdpijn

    hoofdpijn Guest

    Yep. It goes up passed the "F" a bit.
     
    hoofdpijn, Sep 27, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    Im not saying there's a 1/4 tank left, I am using that as an example. The 94
    Caravan you had was a different tank, not as long as the one on this new
    vehicle. If you really want to know how far you can get on the fuel lite,
    tank a 5 gallon tank with you and keep driving until she runs out.

    Glenn
     
    maxpower, Sep 27, 2006
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  8. hoofdpijn

    BF Guest

    Snip
    I've been told that it is (can be) very detrimental to the injectors if they
    are run dry. I assume it has to do with fuel providing cooling.
    Are the new injectors better or was I under a misconception (not the first
    time)?
    Or is this still a bad idea?
    BF
     
    BF, Sep 27, 2006
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  9. hoofdpijn

    maxpower Guest

    I don't think that by running an engine out of gas is going to cause
    injectors to go bad, That sounds like a myth to me!! Injectors are nothing
    but a solenoid that energizes and de-energizes. I fuel pump is cooled by the
    fuel in the tank but then again running it out of fuel is not going to
    damage it.

    My opinion only

    Glenn
     
    maxpower, Sep 27, 2006
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  10. hoofdpijn

    BF Guest

    I've been told that it is (can be) very detrimental to the injectors if
    Hmmmmmm, remember it being told to me as gospel back in the mid 80's. Can't
    remember who or how credible, of course. I never tested it.
    Anyone out there who's run theirs dry?
    Horror story or NoProblemo?
    Enquiring minds want to know!
    BF
     
    BF, Sep 27, 2006
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    MT-2500 Guest

    Not many fuel gauges are very acurate.
    You just have to learn what yours is doing.
    The best fuel gauge is to watch the mileage you drive.
    Just be glad the gauge is working.
    And I would not count on it being a 20 gal tank.
    The only way to be sue would be to drain and refill it.
    If you tryed running it untill it runs out of fuel you may burn up the
    fuel pump.
    To be on the safe side refill about the 15 gal mark.
    People that run there cars low on fuel are the people that are always
    replaceing there fuel pumps.:grinyes: :lol2: :lol:
    MT
     
    MT-2500, Sep 27, 2006
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  12. When the guage my Dodge Dakota, with supposedly a 22 gallon tank, hits
    the empty line, it takes just under 17 gallons to fill it up.

    Frank
     
    Frank Boettcher, Sep 27, 2006
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  13. hoofdpijn

    Steve B. Guest


    There are a few reasons that come to mind....

    Like has been previously stated the tank is more long than square.

    The fuel pump is cooled by the gas. If the gas gets low the fuel pump
    can cook itself. You really should fill up around 1/4 tank to keep
    the fuel pump happy in most cars but I never can seem to stop until
    the light is flashing and you can hear the fuel pump two cars away :-(

    You need enough fuel to be able to start the van even if it is parked
    on a steep hill and all the fuel has run to one end of the tank or the
    other.

    If a perty white woman runs out of gas on the side of the highway and
    gets run over by a bus full of pregnant nuns while the gas gauge is
    still above the "E" guess who is getting sued?

    Steve B.
     
    Steve B., Sep 27, 2006
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    DeserTBoB Guest

    It's misinformation, but the general idea is right. GM for years has
    cautioned against running a fuel pump dry, even for short periods. The
    fuel both cools and lubricates the pump, and running it dry will
    usually sieze one up in short order. I must say I've heard read the
    same warning for Chrysler or DC vehicles, however. The injectors
    don't care.
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 28, 2006
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  15. hoofdpijn

    hoofdpijn Guest

    It sounds like what I'm seeing is pretty normal then so I just wont
    worry about it.

    Thanks for taking the time to respond everyone!
     
    hoofdpijn, Sep 28, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    Chryslers Pumps are built inside a bowl that is filled with fuel at all
    times, when the tank runs dry, the pump is still sitting in fuel.
     
    maxpower, Sep 28, 2006
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  17. This sounds so familiar. My warning light will come on after I fill up
    a tank and the gauge will drop to Empty. On a good day, the gauge reads
    full.

    As best as I can reckon, if the gauge is working properly, and that's
    always a big IF since who knows?, that on the Empty mark I have 2
    gallons left. Maybe a little more, but never more than 3 on the empty.

    So I worked out that each mark is 4 gallons, with 2 left at the Empty
    mark and 2 more at the above Full mark for 20 gallons.

    I gather the sliding pot or resistor must get uneven spots so it is
    like a roulette wheel for when it works and when it does not work.

    It's really nice on a good day to see the gauge working properly.

    But it's like a clock that is running unevenly. I never know for sure
    when it's right. I just guess that when it shows Empty and I have
    filled the tank all the way or at least more than half, then this will
    be a bad gauge day and I have to listen to the warning, spurious
    warning, of low on gas.
     
    treeline12345, Sep 29, 2006
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  18. hoofdpijn

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Chrysler superior engineering triumphs again!
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 29, 2006
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  19. whoa there big fella- don't believe a WORD that "desertbob" posts- he's
    been recently proven wrong about 10 times in the last 24 hours on this
    and other sites- he's a POSER
     
    duty-honor-country, Sep 29, 2006
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  20. hoofdpijn

    MT-2500 Guest


    What is the deal here?
    Every time he post you post right after him?
    Are you two the one and same person?
    Or how do you Keep up with all of his post?
    Hinda of a strange deal here?
    Fill us in here.
    MT
     
    MT-2500, Sep 29, 2006
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