2005 Pacifica visibility

Discussion in 'Pacifica' started by dbf, Jul 21, 2004.

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    dbf Guest

    I have read a lot of posts regarding poor visibility in the Pacifica.
    After our test drive we do agree...but do you get use to it??

    My wife is moving from a 4-door Acura TL. We like to Pacifica for
    many reasons, but the poor visibility does have us concerned.
    dbf, Jul 21, 2004
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    Art Guest

    All SUV's are bad though I think one Acura has a camera system now. Also
    camera systems can be added after market. How about a Dodge Magnum. Still
    not great but not as bad as the Pacifica. I assume you are talking about
    the rear view.
    Art, Jul 21, 2004
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  3. Whether or not you continue to notice how poor it is, the visibility will
    not improve.
    Try a top-spec Subaru Outback wagon instead.

    Daniel J. Stern, Jul 21, 2004
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    TOM KAN PA Guest

    << All SUV's are bad though I think one Acura has a camera system now. Also
    camera systems can be added after market. How about a Dodge Magnum. >>
    I didn't know the Magnum was 4-wheel or all-wheel drive.
    TOM KAN PA, Jul 22, 2004
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    NJ Vike Guest

    I heard the folks at the dealer talking about the poor view in the Magnum.

    Perhaps the will install the reverse sensing system like some SUVs have.

    NJ Vike, Jul 22, 2004
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    Art Guest

    AWD Magnum and 300 are supposed to be coming.
    Art, Jul 22, 2004
  7. I'm trying to decide between an Acura TL and a 300C. What is it that you
    don't like about the Acura, is it just the size or are there other
    characteristics that you don't like?
    General Schvantzkoph, Jul 22, 2004
  8. I own a Pacifica and drive it in a city/suburban envirorment. I am
    aware of the rearward visibility handicap but have no problem with it.
    I use the mirrors constantly. I MAKE SURE nothing/no person is
    behind me, BEFORE I get into the PARKED vehicle (which should be done
    with ANY/ALL vehicles). I have had no problems or close calls because
    of visibility. Just being aware of what is around you, the same as
    with ANY vehicle. Please don't let this PERCEIVED problem keep you
    from enjoying the Pacifica. I don't.
    Richard Benner Jr, Jul 22, 2004
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    dbf Guest

    The Acura TL-3.2 is a great car..The size of the vehicle is my only
    issue. It is a 1998 with 50K and we have invested little over normal
    maintenance. One other thing to consider...the sticker in '98 was
    $33K, Acura offered me $7k as a trade-in..said they might be able to
    get up to around 7.5/8..but since the car was 2 body styles old that
    was the best. KBB shows a trade-in of $9,300
    dbf, Jul 22, 2004
  10. It's not a "perceived" problem, it's an actual problem. You've found
    workarounds for the handicap, and they've been effective for you -- so
    far. That's nice, but it doesn't mean the problem isn't real.
    Daniel J. Stern, Jul 22, 2004
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    rickety Guest

    Since I first saw them and realised their actual size, I had been thinking
    of the Pacifica more like a van than a regular sedan / station wagon.

    Is the rearward visibility worse than a typical van or station wagon? If so,
    what is the cause? Is it the relationship between the "eye line" of the
    driver and the lower extent of the rear window?
    rickety, Jul 22, 2004
  12. My opinion comes from only rather brief experience, but I believe the
    answer is "Yes", rearward visibility is worse than a typical van or
    station wagon.
    Yes; more generically, it's due to the interrelationships between the
    body/glass line placement, the vehicle height and placement of the driver
    within the vehicle. Station wagons work OK because the body/glass line is
    low. Vans work OK because while the body/glass line is high, the driver
    is also placed high. The Pacifica has an unfortunate combination of low
    driver placement and high body/glass line, which gives poor rearward

    Daniel J. Stern, Jul 22, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    I don't own a Pacifica, but I agree with you, Richard. I do own a '99
    Concorde, which also has very limited rearward visibility - it used to
    bother me a great deal when I first got it. But by overcompensating
    (doublechecking rear and side mirrors, being aware of blind spots and
    allowing time for things to move within the field of vision, etc.), it
    is second nature to me now. I've even gotten pretty good at backing
    into head-in/back-in type parking places and judging how close I am to
    low dead-end barriers (still some guess work involved, but I'm now good
    for ±1 foot instead of the ±3 feet for the first few months after I
    bought it.

    The only concern now is when/if other family members have to use/borrow
    my car, it is bothersome to them and they are still *way* down on the
    learning curve for the visibility peculiarities of the vehicle that are
    now second nature to me (like when my wife wiped out the drivers door
    and side mirror against a 6" diameter concrete filled pipe post beside
    the car in a parking deck because she was so focused and paranoid on not
    hitting anything immediately behind her as she backed out of a spot.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
    Bill Putney, Jul 22, 2004
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    Art Guest

    I don't have problems with my 300M but with my 94 LHS, occassionally I had
    to get out of the darn thing to check my rear end. Better safe than sorry.
    I imagine the Pacifica would be the same way.
    Art, Jul 23, 2004
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    RPhillips47 Guest

    We bought ours at the end of last August. Yes, you do get used to it. After
    18,000+ miles we are extremely happy with it.

    RPhillips47, Jul 23, 2004
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    RPhillips47 Guest

    To some the problem is "perceived". To others it isn't. To you, who doesn't own
    one, you say it is actual (though without owning one you cannot say actual, you
    can only say perceived). After almost a year and 18,000+ miles there is no
    problem to us. But, of course, I have never had a problem with the headlights
    on my '96 T&C, but that's another subject..............!!

    RPhillips47, Jul 23, 2004
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    rickety Guest

    Thanks Dan
    rickety, Jul 23, 2004
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    dbf Guest

    Thank you for all of the replies...picked our '05 up on Sat., and so
    far, my wife is very happy with it.
    dbf, Jul 26, 2004
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    RPhillips47 Guest

    The more she drives it, the more she will like it. Last night when my wife was
    driving home from dinner (I rarely get to drive it) she said she really likes
    the quiet and smooth ride. My wife rarely makes comments about a vehicle just
    out of the blue so that means she is very impressed and happy.

    RPhillips47, Jul 27, 2004
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