2002 PT Cruiser miss

Discussion in 'PT Cruiser' started by Steve Moore, Dec 12, 2005.

  1. Steve Moore

    Steve Moore Guest

    I had to run an errand on my lunch just now, and halfway up the highway my
    engine started missing. At idle it runs really rough, and the engine light
    has blinked a few times. How likely is it that I fouled a plug? I know
    the stock ones are reportedly junk, but I've never had one give out like
    that. Any suggestions for a decent plug that my local parts store will
    stock?

    The car has 52k miles on it.

    Thanks,
    Steve
     
    Steve Moore, Dec 12, 2005
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  2. Steve Moore

    Richard Guest

    After about 30,000 miles the OEM Champion conventional plugs should be
    changed. The best choice is the Champion dual plat plug for this
    application. It should last another 70,000 miles or so. Changing the wires
    to a decent set is also a good idea while you are at it.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Dec 12, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    Its not the plugs but the plug wires, replace both at the same time.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Dec 12, 2005
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  4. Steve Moore

    CopperTop Guest

    I've heard of plug and/or wire problems from many PT owners. However, I
    went to 70,000 miles with my original plugs and wires on my 2001 PT. It
    would occasionally idle a tad rough but nothing but a second or two blip
    then would smooth out.

    Definitely do both plugs and wires while you're in there. Have also heard
    others gapping the plugs between 0.40 and 0.45 rather than what the factory
    suggests (non-turbo engines) to get rid of the rough idle.

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    CopperTop, Dec 12, 2005
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  5. Steve Moore

    philthy Guest

    there is a tsb for updated plugs and plug wires for this exact issue
     
    philthy, Dec 12, 2005
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  6. Steve Moore

    maxpower Guest

    Not true. The TSB you are referring to 08-008-04 is for 2003 and 2004 year
    only.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Dec 13, 2005
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  7. Steve Moore

    moore.324 Guest

    Update:

    The car has a dead cylinder. I could see metal shavings in the intake
    as soon as I pulled it, and the number 2 plug was a complete gunky
    mess. I cleaned everything up, put in new plugs and wires, and it
    didn't help as I knew it wouldn't. Tomorrow I'll have it towed to the
    dealership. I guess this will be a good test of the 7/70 powertrain
    warranty.
     
    moore.324, Dec 13, 2005
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  8. Steve Moore

    maxpower Guest

    Something is missing here, umm was there an overheat condition? noise at one
    time ?
     
    maxpower, Dec 13, 2005
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  9. Steve Moore

    Steve Moore Guest

    No noise, no overheat ever. It just started missing as I was cruising the
    freeway at about 65mph.

    According to the SD, the cylinder had two bad valves. I need to talk to
    the mechanic for more info. I can't figure out how the valves could go bad,
    leave metal shavings in the process, and neither the head nor engine need
    replaced. It is supposed to be ready for pick up today.

    My cost is $350 which includes an injector and other misc parts not covered
    under warranty.


    Steve
     
    Steve Moore, Dec 15, 2005
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    Richard Guest

    Injector should be covered by the federal pollution warranty!

    If the injector failed it should not have burnt the valves and if it did
    from too lean a condition, only the exhaust valve should have been impacted.
    If the plug failed, then too much gas could have washed off the oil
    impacting the rings, but that is not your story either.

    Something strange here and it does not make sense that it is not covered by
    the 7/70 warranty or the pollution control warranty. You should only have to
    perhaps pick up the cost of an oil change and plugs (but again, you just put
    in new plugs).

    Please fill us in on this one.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Dec 15, 2005
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  11. Steve Moore

    maxpower Guest

    Hmm something fishy going on
     
    maxpower, Dec 15, 2005
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