2001 Concorde transmission problem?

Discussion in 'Concorde' started by micky, Mar 25, 2005.

  1. micky

    micky Guest

    Hi Everyone,

    Last night I changed the trans oil and filter. I cleaned the pan and the
    magnet and put 4 quarts of ATF +4. Everything went well until this morning
    when I tried to drive the car! When I put the car in gear and try to go
    backwards or forward the car does not move until the RPM hits 3000 and the
    car just jumps! I think it stays in first gear. After 5 minutes of driving
    the "yellow" check engine light came on. I stopped the car right away and
    had it towed back to my house. By the way, the speedometer works.

    I used a generic code reader and I am getting the following codes; 700, 732,
    731, and 733.

    Did I do something wrong? Am I missing something? I did everything by the
    book! Please let me know if this is something I can take care of myself or
    should I just have it towed to the dealer? Thank you very much.
    micky, Mar 25, 2005
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Do you have the part number (packaging) of the filter that you put in to
    check for the application? I ask because I was warned a couple of years
    ago on this ng that there are a couple of filters to fit trannies on
    Chryslers (I'm careful never to call them "Chrysler transmissions") 8^)
    that will seem to fit but will not work, and if you get sold the wrong
    one, it might not be obvious 'til you try to drive it after buttoning it up.

    Sure enough, a couple of years ago, when I did the filter and fluid on
    my '99 Concorde, the Chrysler dealer had sold me the wrong filter - I
    happened to notice when I fitted the filter up that the fit was darn
    near perfect, **except** the nipple that mates with the tranny plumbing
    was too short - i.e., didn't mate with the tranny plumbing. Fortunately
    I noticed it (thanks to the warning I got here) and didn't put the pan
    back on. I went to the auto parts store and bought the same brand of
    filter (Saginaw, IIRC), but the correct one.

    If the same thing happended to you, I'm thinking that the fluid is
    having a hard time getting pulled from the pan thru the filter with a
    poor connection like that. Not saying that that definitely is your
    problem, but you never know.

    (BTW - I posted essentially this same reply to your thread on DI.net)

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
    Bill Putney, Mar 26, 2005
  3. micky

    micky Guest

    Bill, thank you very much. I will dig in the garbage in the morning and I'll
    get that # for you. BTW- I got the filter from the dealer trying to avoid
    exactly this sort of problem!
    micky, Mar 26, 2005
  4. micky

    Bill Putney Guest

    OK. (And BTW - It was the 300M Club you and I posted to on this, not
    DI.net which I erroneously said earlier. Not that it matters.)

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
    Bill Putney, Mar 26, 2005
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    mic canic Guest

    is the fluid at the proper leval????
    mic canic, Mar 26, 2005
  6. micky

    micky Guest

    Yes Sir!

    micky, Mar 26, 2005
  7. micky

    micky Guest

    I think this problem is related to my question, front end creaking noise,
    posted on 3/9! Here is a link to it,

    Mysteriously, the noise is gone now! I am thinking that the oil change
    accelerated the breakage of whatever was going to break in the first place.
    Please advise. I surely appreciate your time. Thanks.
    micky, Mar 26, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    Just curious, did you do this trans service because the engine lite was
    already on and was trying to correct a shifting problem? say maybe an input
    speed sensor?

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
    maxpower, Mar 26, 2005
  9. micky

    micky Guest

    Hi Glenn,

    Absolutely not! No Check engine light was on and no codes! I did the trans
    service hoping that it will take care of the noise I mentioned in my post on
    3/9 Also, the car had almost 50,000 on it and I think service was due.
    micky, Mar 26, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    P0731 Improper Ratio for First Gear.
    P0732 Improper Ratio for Second Gear.
    P0733 Improper Ratio for Third Gear.

    Not sure there, possibly an input speed sensor.
    maxpower, Mar 26, 2005
  11. micky

    micky Guest

    Hi Bill, The part number is 1-04796730AB.

    MM. Sabra +1 (914) 371-4168
    micky, Mar 28, 2005
  12. micky

    Bill Putney Guest

    That's the correct one, so that's not the problem.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
    Bill Putney, Mar 29, 2005
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    Another thought: Did you get the O-ring on and/or possibly leave the old
    one there along with the new one?

    Bob Shuman, Mar 29, 2005
  14. micky

    micky Guest

    Bob, I used the new one that came with the filter. Thanks.
    micky, Mar 29, 2005
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    micky Guest

    Thanks Bill. I have the day off tomorrow so I am going to drop the pan again
    and see if I screwed something up there. I'll let you know what happen.
    micky, Mar 29, 2005
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    micky Guest

    Hi everyone, hi Bill.

    I dropped the Pan on Tuesday afternoon and I let the tranny drain over
    night. On Wednesday morning I picked up another 4 quarts ATF+4 from the
    dealer and put the tranny back together. I checked the fluid level and it
    was low, really low! So, I picked up another 2 quarts and had to put in
    another 1.5 quarts to get it right.

    Started the car up and to my surprise it drove perfect. That was on
    Wednesday afternoon and today is Friday and it still driving good. I don't
    know what to tell you! I really did not do anything different from the first
    time I replaced the fluid! I am not going to complain, I just wanted to
    write back and share my story with you. If someone has and explanation, I am
    all ears.

    Thanks again! Great people, great newsgroup!
    micky, Apr 2, 2005
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    Sounds like you were 1.5 quarts low...
    Bob Shuman, Apr 2, 2005
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    Bill Putney Guest

    That's what I'm thinking.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
    Bill Putney, Apr 2, 2005
  19. micky

    micky Guest

    I don't know, I thought the 1.5 was because I let it drain over night. The
    fluid level was correct the first time but who knows! I am just happy it is
    micky, Apr 2, 2005
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    Steve Guest

    Draining overnight empties about 1/2 the torque convertor in addition to
    the transmission case.

    I don't have a sure-fire explanation, just 2 guesses:

    1) fluid level was low the first time also
    2) filter neck wasn't seated in valve body the first time
    Steve, Apr 4, 2005
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