2000 Concorde LXi - Replace Inner Control Rods or Just Bushings

Discussion in 'Concorde' started by jaygreg, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. jaygreg

    jaygreg Guest

    My 2000 Chrysler Concorde LXi was found to need a right inner control
    arm according to a repair shop yesterday. I was told the job requires
    that the plenum be removed first. When I got home and plowed into my
    factory service manual I bought from Chrysler, I found the repair
    doesn’t require the removal of the plenum. A 1995 Concorde I owned had
    the same problem so I pulled my file and found the only parts I bought
    were two #4695385 bushings.

    Assuming there’s been little ware on the knuckle into which this
    bushings insert, can I be reasonably certain all I need to buy are two
    bushings rather than complete inner control arms? Can I replace the
    bushing without removing the arms themselves and, if so, is there any
    trick to inserting the bushings since leaning over the car to mid-
    firewall level seems to be a bit awkward for an old guy in his
    60's.... like soaping the bushings with liquid detergent first?
     
    jaygreg, Jun 28, 2008
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  2. jaygreg

    Bill Putney Guest

    We may have a terminology problem here. I can't tell if you're talking
    about the control arm bushing (there's no inner and outer on that), *OR*
    if you're talking about the inner tie rod bushing. Both do go bad.

    For the inner tie rod bushing, the cowling at the bottom of the
    windshield needs to come off.

    For the control arm (attaches the bottom of the front wheel to the
    frame), nothing but the control arm needs to come off (with that corner
    jacked up and on jack stands).

    That's why I'm uncertain about which part you are talking about.

    *IF* you're talking about the control arm bushing, I'd replace the whole
    control arm because it's $40 to $60, and bh the time you pay the labor
    of pressing the old bushing out and the new bushing in, you might as
    well replace the whole thing. *AND* that way, you get a new ball joint
    on the other end of the control arm - chances are it's about worn out
    too, but even if not, why take the chance just to questionably save a
    very few dollars.

    *IF* you're talking about the inner tie rod bushings, then - yes - just
    replace the bushings. Have them replaced on both right and left inner
    tie rods at the same time since most of the labor is getting into the
    area, and those bushings are known for wearing out. And you get
    bushings for both in one set.

    Re-reading your last paragraph, it seems to me that you are talking
    about the inner tie rod bushings and not the control arm or control arm
    bushing.

    The aftermarket kits for those bushings are two-part bushings. No
    grease necessary to install - one half pushes into one side of the hole,
    the other half from the other side - no pressing needed.

    I prefer to detach the outer tie rod from the strut bracket and pull the
    whole inner and outer tie rod assembly out as an assembly. It can be
    difficult to get things lined up perfectly to get the inner tie rod
    bolts started back into the steering rack without cross-threading.
    Having the other end detached makes that part easy. Then, getting the
    outer tie rod stud into back into the strut bracket after the inner tie
    rod bolt is in is very easy.

    HTH!

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 28, 2008
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  3. jaygreg

    jaygreg Guest

    Thanks, Bill. It's the inner tie rod that's the issue. I bought the
    1995 bushings from Chrysler but don't recall them being split. Perhaps
    that's new. Or are you talking about third-party after market parts
    (Advance Auto Parts etc.)? Recommend genuine Chrysler or whatever
    third-party supplies? After all... this is the second Chrysler I've
    owned and bout sets of bushings failed around 90000 miles.
     
    jaygreg, Jun 28, 2008
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  4. jaygreg

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're welcome. The aftermarket bushings are as good as the OEM's on
    this part, and yes - the aftermarkets are split. Not sure about the
    replacement OEM's, but I doubt it. Come to think of it, what would be
    bad about taking the one-piece bushing and cutting it thru the center
    with a knife?

    I replaced those on one of my Concordes - the one that just turned over
    200k miles - about 4 years ago, and they're still good (aftermarkets).

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 28, 2008
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