1999 Dodge B1500 Van Electrical Problems?! help! :)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by sdelic, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. sdelic

    sdelic Guest

    Ok,

    I've checked all the "visable" fuses I could find and all seem to be
    good this is the problem.

    I got in the van and started it up and now I have:

    No Wipers
    No Radio
    No Overhead Console Lights
    No A/C Blower
    No Power Windows
    No Turn Signals
    and my ignition switch is stuck in the "ON" position.

    I can start the car up just fine and it drives with no problems.

    My headlights, brake lights, exterior lights all work, electric door
    locks, dashboard lights, clock all seem to work.

    It really looks like I've "BLOWN" something but I can't figure out
    where. All the fuses in the fuse block in the dash look good as do all
    the ones under the hood. Of course this doesn't mean that the ones that
    don't have a "window" to look at look fine. I don't think the ignition
    switch is bad because I can still start the car it's just "stuck" I
    think as a result of whatever is "blown" but I could be wrong.

    Does anyone have any ideas? Anyone have access to a factory service
    manual for this year that can look at the wiring diagram and see if
    there's something I'm missing?

    Also this is a custome conversion van, not sure if that matters in this
    case but you never know!
     
    sdelic, Jan 12, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    If you don't feel you can justify purchasing an FSM, it might be worth
    it to you to purchase an AllData on-line subscription for $25 (a year,
    $15 renewal after that or for any additional vehicles). That will give
    you immediate access to the very schematics that are in the FSM for that
    specific vehicle (plus full TSB's and much of the FSM descriptive and
    procedural info.). www.alldata.com

    HTH

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jan 12, 2006
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    kmatheson Guest

    I had a problem like this with an old Toyota. Two pins in one of the
    harness connectors somehow got hot enough to soften the surrounding
    material, allowing contact to be lost. It was hard to find. I would
    suggest checking all of the harness connectors to ensure that all pins
    are making good contact. There may also be a fautly ground.

    I agree with Bill in that good wiring diagrams are a must. A FSM or an
    Alldata subscription should be able to provide what you need.

    -Kirk Matheson
     
    kmatheson, Jan 12, 2006
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    philthy Guest

    all fuses should be tested with a test lite and not just looking at them
    and there is more under the hood
     
    philthy, Jan 15, 2006
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    mkim54 Guest

    I have had great success using a good contact cleaner. The best one is
    DeoxIT (www.caig.com)
    When the metal on connector pins start to oxidize, more current is
    required to get through the surface and the surface begins to heat up.
    Over time it will finally fail. Deoxit, cleans or deoxidizes the
    surface and protects it. Works great on all electrical connections. I
    came across it since it is spec'ed out by many automotive and aviation
    mfg's.
    Works great around the house also; batteries, audio/video, etc.
    Mike
     
    mkim54, Jan 15, 2006
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    sdelic Guest

    I tested all the fuses with a meter tonight and all check out just
    fine. I tried removing the main harness connector right behind the
    stearing wheel but I couldn't get it to come out. Does anyone have the
    procedure to do this? the top of it comes loose when I loosen the bolt
    in the center but it's like just the top is wanting to give. I'm kinda
    paranoid about just pulling on it really hard.

    To recap as maybe someone has a clue with further help:

    What doesn't work:

    Wipers
    Turn Signals
    Radio
    Windows
    ABS and Airbag Lights are "ON"
    Cig Lighter
    A/C Blower
    Ignition is stuck in the "ON" position but starts van just fine

    What Does work:
    Headlights
    Running Lights
    Reverse Lights
    Hazard lights (But turn signals don't)
    Electric Locks
    Door Buzzer
    Check Engine Light is "OFF"
    Check Gauges is "OFF"
    Clock
    Dashboard Lights
    Gauges

    This problem just happened like "THAT".. I had driven it earlier in the
    day with no problems. The engine/trans run just fine and the brakes and
    all work, just none of the above. Anyone else have any insight please
    feel free !
     
    sdelic, Jan 16, 2006
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    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    Not a mechanic; just an old retired electrical guy. Worse, not
    yet at all comfortable with chrysler as I used GM all my life,
    so... forewarned is forearmed :)

    Did you check the fuses in the power distribution box in the
    engine compartment? Some of them don't look like fuses as I
    know them. A little larger than the older blade type fuses,
    with rounded tops.

    Have you looked at fusible links? Dunno what they look like
    in Chryslers yet, hopefully the experts here will tell you, and
    maybe even where they are. They should be sort of like large
    bulges in series with a wire... I _believe_ you should be
    able to find one in close proximity to the alternator, and in
    series with one of the alternator wires. Do NOT jumper it with
    a piece of wire!!!

    Just a thought...

    Take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Jan 16, 2006
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  8. Y'know, I'm suspecting your trouble is nothing more or less than a faulty
    ignition switch.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 16, 2006
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    sdelic Guest

    You know I've thought about that, only thing that keeps me from
    thinking that maybe is the case is the fact that I can actually start
    the van. Also another thing is when this happened I couldn't actually
    use the remote door locks, they didn't work, then I jiggled some wires
    around and they started working, but nothing else.

    Could a simple iginition switch cause all this other stuff to short
    out?
     
    sdelic, Jan 16, 2006
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  10. ....so? The "start" contacts are separate from the numerous other contacts
    in the switch.
    A faulty ignition switch could easily cause your list of non-working items
    to stop working. You don't know that they're "shorted out".
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 16, 2006
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