1999 Chrysler Concorde LXI Window / Door Handle / Speaker / Door

Discussion in 'Concorde' started by vegascyclist, May 2, 2006.

  1. vegascyclist

    vegascyclist Guest

    I have a 1999 Chrysler Concorde LXI. I just repaired the driver's side
    front window since it was going up crooked. The clip was broken. I
    couldn't get the broken clip off so with some Gorilla glue and clamps,
    I was able to glue the broken piece back on and it seems to work fine.
    Chrysler really makes me mad because they knew this was a problem and
    didn't fix it.

    Since I had to take the window off - that led to more problems...

    While I was repairing that, I apparently broke part of the door handle
    that attaches to this metal bar so that you can get out of the car. I
    have tried to use Gorilla glue and crazy glue to repair this small
    plastic piece from the door handle but it keeps breaking when I put the
    metal piece back into it from the door. How much is somthing like this
    going to cost for the parts? Also, how hard is this to do since it
    seems like there are clips or fasteners of some type and not screws.
    Do I need to buy the whole part with the wood trim or can I just buy
    the moving part?

    Since I was in the door anyways, I thought i would replace the speaker
    that sounds blown. As I understand, this is another item that has a
    service bulletin on it since it need an amplifier. Can they get
    anything right? I just unplugged the speaker and wrapped electrical
    tape around the end. Any other suggestions or will a new speaker have
    the same problem? How do you get that speaker out?

    Final problem is with the door panel. Not the metal part but the part
    with the handle and window and lock buttons. I obviously didn't have
    the door panel back on right since it kept sticking and was hard to get
    out of the car. All of the 3 screw holes on the bottom of the door
    panel have broken off. Is there anyway to repair this or am I just
    better getting a new panel and that will fix the handle and the bottom
    of the door problem? What will a new door panel cost installed?

    Thanks in advance for all of your help.
     
    vegascyclist, May 2, 2006
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  2. vegascyclist

    maxpower Guest

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    Gorilla glue and duct tape wont work, why not fix the problem the correct
    way, If you put heat on the window lift plate it will come right off and
    Chrysler sells the part for about $10. And now that you broke the door
    handle and duct tape isn't available you gonna have to call your local
    dealer and give them the last 8 of your vin and they will give you the part
    number and price of the handle.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, May 2, 2006
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  3. vegascyclist

    vegascyclist Guest

    I used a hairdryer on the plate for almost 15 minutes and the plate
    would not come off. The window is fine now. My next goal is to get
    the interior door handle off. Does anybody have any instructions for
    that? I called the Chrysler dealer and they want $100 for the handle.
    Does that sound right? Is the Dodge Intrepid handle the same? Is it
    easy to put on? Once the handle is fixed then I will move on to
    putting the door back on properly.
     
    vegascyclist, May 2, 2006
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  4. vegascyclist

    Bill Putney Guest

    I'll be surprised if the Gorilla glue holds it for very long, but I
    could be wrong. The clip comes off with blow dryer heat and pliers:
    Once the glue is hot and soft, pry the clip off the glass with pliers -
    pry off of one side of the glass, and then pull it free from the other side.
    Read my post (4th post), complete with pictures, in this thread on the
    300M Club forums: http://300mclub.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10560

    There is a TSB on the problem, and DC came out with some special washers
    to cover the holes and hold the door panel on. Take the part number for
    the washers for your interior color to the dealer and have them order
    them. You ought to get enough to do all of your doors - they all will
    eventually break without these washers - the washers will prevent them
    breaking.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, May 2, 2006
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  5. vegascyclist

    Bill Putney Guest

    It doesn't just fall off. You have to pry (bend) one side of the clip
    loose from the glass with a pair of pliers after heating, and then heat
    the other side and pull it loose. Any glue residue would be scraped
    with a razor blade and wiped clean with rubbing alcohol before gluing on
    a new clip.

    Might have been more accurate to say "The window is fine for now". :)

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, May 2, 2006
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  6. vegascyclist

    maxpower Guest

    --

    Gorilla glue and duct tape wont work, why not fix the problem the correct
    way, If you put heat on the window lift plate it will come right off and
    Chrysler sells the part for about $10. And now that you broke the door
    handle and duct tape isn't available you gonna have to call your local
    dealer and give them the last 8 of your vin and they will give you the part
    number and price of the handle.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, May 3, 2006
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  7. vegascyclist

    vegascyclist Guest

    What is the going price for a driver's side front left handle? They
    want a 100 here for the part. Any good sources for used parts?
     
    vegascyclist, May 3, 2006
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  8. vegascyclist

    Bill Putney Guest

    I've never had to replace one so I don't know the answer to that, but
    from reading LH car forums, it's my understanding that you used to have
    to buy the whole door panel, but that they later made just the handle
    available.

    Get the part number, then go to an on-line discount dealer like
    www.chryslerpartsdirect.com and plug the part number into their parts
    price look-up. Whatever the going price is at your run of the mill list
    or list plus 20% local dealer, you will save quite a bit even after
    shipping cost.

    For used, you might try www.car-part.com - they will present you with
    contact info. and pricing for local junk yards that have the part. You
    would not find the handle itself, but may score an entire panel for a
    good price. Might be a little risky ensuring that the panel matches
    your interior unless your intent is to salvage just the handle from it.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, May 3, 2006
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  9. vegascyclist

    vegascyclist Guest

    Even if I do salvage just the handle, how do I attach it since it is
    not attached with screws but some type of fasteners.
     
    vegascyclist, May 3, 2006
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  10. vegascyclist

    maxpower Guest

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    There is now a TSB that list all the handles by color code (it comes with
    the bezel) and you are right, the door panel does not have to be replaced
    anymore.
    Just give the dealer the last 8 of the vin and they can give you the part
    number.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, May 3, 2006
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  11. vegascyclist

    Bill Putney Guest

    I did a quick search on the 300M Club forums, and this thread was one of
    the hits:
    http://300mclub.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7245&highlight=door+handle+replace

    Read the last post.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, May 4, 2006
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  12. vegascyclist

    Bill Putney Guest

    After reading Glenn's (maxpower's) post, I looked up the TSB.

    Below my signature is info. (without figures) from the TSB that Glenn
    referred to. One of the figures is an image of a whole long table of
    part numbers for all permutations of doors, LH model, and interior color
    (roughly 35 part numbers). If you give me your trim code, whether the
    handle is chrome or not, and whether the bezel is woodgrain or not, I
    will post back with the part number from that TSB.

    Just picking the part number for a Concorde driver door with wood grain
    bezel, chrome handle, and K9 trim code, the part number is 05102858AA,
    according to the www.chryslerpartsdirect.com site, the list is $95,
    their price to you is $78 (plus shipping).

    Oh - a little tip on Chrysler part numbers: TSB's put a leading zero on
    the part numbers they give. But guess what - the dealer parts computers
    (and on-line dealer parts look-ups) won't recognize the number with a
    leading zero - so if the parts guy or a web site says the part number
    does not exist, just give them the same number *without* the leading zero.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')


    FROM TSB No. 23-013-04:

    Interior - Front Door Handle or Bezel Replacement

    GROUP: Body

    DATE: May 4, 2004

    THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 23-047-02, DATED
    DEC. 13, 2002, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. ALL REVISIONS
    ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH **ASTERISKS** AND INCLUDES UPDATES TO THE PARTS
    REQUIRED AND AN ADDITIONAL MODEL YEAR.

    SUBJECT:
    Interior Front Door Handle/Bezel Replacement

    OVERVIEW:
    This bulletin provides information to allow replacement of interior
    front door handle/bezel instead of replacement of the door trim panel.

    MODELS:

    1998 - **2004** (LH) LHS/300M/Concorde/Intrepid

    SYMPTOM/CONDITION:

    An interior front door handle/bezel requires replacement.

    **PARTS REQUIRED:

    NOTE :Each kit contains one handle/bezel assembly, six pushnuts and an
    instruction sheet.

    SPECIAL TOOLS/EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:

    REPAIR PROCEDURE:

    1. Remove the front door trim panel using the procedures outlined on
    TeChCONNECT or in Section 23 of the appropriate service manual.

    2. After placing the door trim panel on a clean work surface, use a
    21/64 in. drill bit to drill out the mounting boss heat stakes that
    attach the existing door handle/bezel to the trim panel. Take extra care
    to drill in the center of each heat stake, (Fig. 1).

    3. Remove the existing handle/bezel from trim panel.

    4. Clean the back of the trim panel of all plastic filings.

    5. Seat the new handle/bezel into position.

    6. Place the push nuts onto the handle/bezel bosses.

    7. Use a 10 mm socket to install the push nuts all the way down on the
    mounting bosses to secure the handle/bezel onto the door trim panel.
    Using a wiggling side to side motion may be helpful, (Fig. 2).

    8. Install the lock switch from the original handle/bezel to the new
    door handle/bezel.

    9. Install the door trim panel using the procedures outlined on
    TechConnect or in Section 23 of the appropriate service manual.

    POLICY:
    Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.

    TIME ALLOWANCE:

    FAILURE CODE:

    Disclaimer :This bulletin is supplied as technical information only and
    is not an authorization for repair.
     
    Bill Putney, May 4, 2006
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  13. vegascyclist

    Bill Putney Guest

    Ahh - you are correct - I just posted the text contents of the TSB after
    reading your post and looking up the TSB.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, May 4, 2006
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  14. Nice tip, max, ty for the tip re the parts #'s.
     
    Knifeblade_03, May 4, 2006
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  15. vegascyclist

    vegascyclist Guest

    Bill,

    Where can you get the TSBs? Also my '99 Concorde LXi has a grey handle
    with wood trim around it. Thanks for all of your help.
     
    vegascyclist, May 4, 2006
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  16. vegascyclist

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're welcome.

    The TSB's are included in alldata.com subscriptions. Dealers can look
    them up and print them. I can only assume that decent dealers would
    provide them to you as a courtesy if you give them the TSB no. and ask.

    It would be best if you had the actual Chrysler color code, but I
    realize that you might not have that at hand. I'm going to guess that
    it is code AZ - agate, which is a dark grey used in '99. Again, a
    dealer would be able to verify your interior color code if you give them
    your VIN no. You might just want to have them print you out a complete
    build list from your VIN - it is a 2 or 3 page printout that defines
    your car down to the last nut and bolt. I scanned mine into my computer
    for reference when I need to order a part that is option-dependent.

    OK - so '99 Concorde left front door handle, trim code AZ, color handle
    (not chrome), woodgrain bezel - that would make your part number
    05102854AA (remember to omit the leading '0'). They must all be the
    same price - comes up on chryslerpartsdirect.com at $95 list/$78 your
    price just like the chrome handle I used as an example in the last post.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, May 5, 2006
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  17. vegascyclist

    vegascyclist Guest

    Well you were right. The window doesn't open properly again. I guess I
    need to heat up the metal and pry it off. What is the best way to heat
    it? Should a hair dry work? How can I tell if it is hot enough? How
    long should I heat it? Am I going to be bending the metal away from
    the glass on each side? Once this is done - then I can buy the handle.
     
    vegascyclist, May 25, 2006
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  18. vegascyclist

    Bill Putney Guest

    Ahh grasshoppah - you will know when it is right. Don't over-think it.
    You're simply softening the glue so the force you have to apply to
    peel the metal away from the glass isn't going to break the glass - and
    I think there will be plenty of safety margin for any reasonably warm
    temperature - doesn't have to be so hot that you can't touch it.
    See above
    Exactly - put slip-joint plier jaws (small pliers work - doesn't have to
    be large Channel Locks™) on the top edge of the metal and on the bottom
    of the 'U' shape on one side, and pivot the pliers to peel it away.

    Once this is done - then I can buy the handle.

    I hope you finally get it fixed to stay fixed.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, May 25, 2006
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  19. vegascyclist

    vegascyclist Guest

    The clip has been removed!!!! I didn't realize how much adhesive was
    there. Now the question is how do I get the adhesive off. What
    adhesive do I use to attach the new clip?
     
    vegascyclist, Jun 2, 2006
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  20. vegascyclist

    maxpower Guest

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    The clip has been removed!!!! I didn't realize how much adhesive was
    there. Now the question is how do I get the adhesive off. What
    adhesive do I use to attach the new clip?



    Once you get the liftplate off with heat, and I use a small torch to heat
    the plate. Just take a razor blade and remove the glue.
    I use mopar gasket sealer to install it back on.
    My suggestion to you is let the sealer set up over nite before installing
    the glass back on the regulator. If the plates move before it dries it will
    cause a problem when reassembly.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jun 2, 2006
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