1998 Voyager Oil Light & Temp. Gauge

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by kit, Feb 22, 2006.

  1. kit

    kit Guest

    1998 Voyager, 3.0L engine, 4speed auto, 83,000 miles, regularly
    serviced: Experienced very mysterious set of circumstances this past
    Sunday, 2/19/06 (the coldest day yet this winter in Philadelphia, about
    25 deg F). I drove about 14 miles, hiway speeds, before I noticed that
    the temperature gauge was not registering any engine temperature.
    Shortly there after (and I don't remember whether it was immediately or
    some few minutes later), the Oil Pressure Light came on and the alarm
    chime started sounding.
    Since I was at my destination, I parked and let the car cool down about
    1/2 hour. I checked the oil level... oil was full. I re-started the
    car, and within about 10 seconds, the light and chime came on again.
    I had AAA flatbed the car to my regular garage, didn't want to chance
    blowing the engine. It wasn't until the next day that my mechanic
    checked things over... he could NOT replicate the symptoms!
    Everything worked fine for the mechanic. He even hooked up a real oil
    pressure gauge and found no flaws in the pressure. Also, the engine
    warmed up just fine, and the temperature gauge reflected that fact. He
    wiggled all the wires, and checked visible connections, but could not
    replicate either symptom.
    My fear is that the car has a "cry wolf" problem: if it happens again,
    when there might be a real mechanical issue, and I ignore it, the
    result could be a real big repair bill.
    Any ideas??
     
    kit, Feb 22, 2006
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  2. It is probably an electrical intermittent. I chased a flickering oil
    light (or was it the gauge) in my 92 voyager 3.0, 3sp for a year or more
    before finding a chaffed wire in the oil pressure switch circuit where
    it passed near the front engine mount.

    If you are warned about oil, but suspect it is a false alarm, and you
    have checked the dip stick, then you can always remove the oil fill cap
    with the engine idling and verify that oil is splashing off the cam
    shaft and rockers. That would verify that the pump is running.

    If you also have an oil gauge, note that, if I recall correctly, the oil
    sender is a single unit with separate elements for the gauge and
    light. One can work without the other working.

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    Ned Forrester, Feb 22, 2006
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  3. kit

    kit Guest

    Thanks, Ned. I also suspect an electrical fault, given the weird
    behavior of the Temperture Gauge... but could it be something else?
    BTW, this car does not have an Oil Gauge, just the light, and that
    irritating chime.
     
    kit, Feb 22, 2006
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  4. kit

    kmatheson Guest

    Since the oil pressure was checked with an mechanical gauge, I believe
    that you can safely rule out the oil pump.

    An intermittent ignition switch could also cause the problems that you
    are seeing.

    -Kirk Matheson
     
    kmatheson, Feb 22, 2006
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  5. kit

    kit Guest

    Kirk,
    Could you be more specific... how can an ignition switch be
    intermittent? There was never any variation or roughness in the
    engine operation, which is what I would expect from an intermittent
    ignition, yet the Temperature Gauge stayed at "C" during the entire
    trip, while the Oil Light came on after about 15 minutes driving.
    There was never any change in the sound or power of the engine, and no
    loss of oil.
    Thanks,
    Kit
     
    kit, Feb 23, 2006
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  6. kit

    kit Guest

    Kirk,
    Could you be more specific... how can an ignition switch be
    intermittent? There was never any variation or roughness in the
    engine operation, which is what I would expect from an intermittent
    ignition, yet the Temperature Gauge stayed at "C" during the entire
    trip, while the Oil Light came on after about 15 minutes driving.
    There was never any change in the sound or power of the engine, and no
    loss of oil.
    Thanks,
    Kit
     
    kit, Feb 23, 2006
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    philthy Guest

    ground out the oil sensor wire and if the l;ite goes off then the sensor
    is bad
    i wiuld also think about scanning all the modules with a scan tool to see
    if there is any related fault codes
     
    philthy, Feb 23, 2006
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