1997 Chrysler LHS Check Engine light

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Hi All!

I have a '97 Chrysler LHS.
When i stop at a traffic light and the transmission is in "D", i push the brake. The "Check engine" light is coming on for a second with the oil lamp and after off. If the lamps is on and i turn the transmission to "N" the lamps will off. When the car is going the light is off. Light only when i'm stop and the transmission is in "D" (or "3"). What is the bug? Any idea? That possible the oil pump become wrong?
What should i do?

Thanks!
 
Hi All!

I have a '97 Chrysler LHS.
When i stop at a traffic light and the transmission is in "D", i push the brake. The "Check engine" light is coming on for a second with the oil lamp and after off. If the lamps is on and i turn the transmission to "N" the lamps will off. When the car is going the light is off. Light only when i'm stop and the transmission is in "D" (or "3"). What is the bug? Any idea? That possible the oil pump become wrong?
What should i do?

Thanks!
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I would start with reading what you posted and seeing if you can understand what you wrote.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
 
Sorry...My english is poor. I'm just learning it!
I'm Hungarian!
Should i try again...?!?!
 
Hi All!

I have a '97 Chrysler LHS.
When i stop at a traffic light and the transmission is in "D", i push the brake. The "Check engine" light is coming on for a second with the oil lamp and after off. If the lamps is on and i turn the transmission to "N" the lamps will off. When the car is going the light is off. Light only when i'm stop and the transmission is in "D" (or "3"). What is the bug? Any idea? That possible the oil pump become wrong?
What should i do?

Thanks!
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Your post made perfect sense to me.

It is almost certainly a bad oil pressure switch - a very common problem, and what you describe is exactly how they behave. You should replace the switch and also have the pressure read by a real pressure gage temporarily hooked up, or check pressure first, then replace switch only if necessary, but 99% of the time with the Chryslers it is the switch going out of calibration due to internal seepage (minor leaking) and building up of pressure in the selaed connector cavity. The pressure check is just to confirm that there is not a real pressure problem.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
 
Bill Putney said:
Your post made perfect sense to me.
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What does the check engine lite have to do with the oil lite Bill? How did that part make perfect sense to you? You never answered it.
 
maxpower said:
I would start with reading what you posted and seeing if you can understand what you wrote.
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What does the check engine lite have to do with the oil lite Bill? How did that part make perfect sense to you? You never answered it.
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It appears that you did in fact understand his post.

Frankly, I missed the part about the CEL - in too much of a hurry getting ready for work. The oil pressure light has no connection to the computer that turns on the CEL - it is a dumb contact closure pressure switch, so the two are likely not related (except maybe a low idle speed condition).

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
 
do u have a check engine lite on at all other than u stated??? sounds like there is a vac. issue and the engine drops rpms to the point of stalling but recovers sound like that might be it???
 
Don't type in AOLese, man. The poor guy is having to translate.

Here's something for toth: Have you checked the oil level? On the dipstick, I mean. If it's low, stopping could be causing low oil pressure, and the lights could be working correctly.
 
maxpower wrote:
understand
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Bill? How

did
Thats the part that made no sense
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OK - I understood you to mean it was a language problem.

Is this maybe a power drop at worst-case (warm engine, in gear at idle) low idle conditions - CEL lights don't usually go back out like that do they?

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
 
maxpower wrote:

What does the check engine lite have to do with the oil lite Bill? How did that part make perfect sense to you? You never answered it.
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I assume he meant the Check GAUGES light, which IIRC comes on whenever either the oil pressure light comes on or an overheat occurs.
 
Steve said:
maxpower wrote:

I assume he meant the Check GAUGES light, which IIRC comes on whenever either the oil pressure light comes on or an overheat occurs.
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That's why I advised to proof read and try again, I got a brain cramp right now and cant for the life of me remember if this vehicle has a check gauge lite, I don't think the LH does. Bill????
 
I assume he meant the Check GAUGES light, which IIRC comes on whenever
That's why I advised to proof read and try again, I got a brain cramp right now and cant for the life of me remember if this vehicle has a check gauge lite, I don't think the LH does. Bill????
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First-gen LH cars do. Trust me, I'm eternally thankful for it! My wife was driving our '93 years ago when a cheap-sh*t aftermarket waterpump decided to shed its pulley right off its shaft. The timing belt didn't jump and was sliding around the pulley which was wedged in the little bulge in the timing cover, miraculously. Wife didn't notice the climbing temp gauge until the "check gauges" light came on and the chime started dinging at her. She pulled over before the aluminum heads curled up like newspaper in a bonfire, so the only damage was a smoking (but still working!) timing belt and a new waterpump. I credit that little light with saving me a LOT of money and cusswords.

Now what I *don't* know for sure is if it also pops on when the oil pressure light does. I thought it did, but now that Bill said he thought that it doesn't get routed through the computer, I'm not so sure.
 
2nd gen does not have Check Gauge light. But Stever says 1st gen does not (below), and that's all that matters for this thread.
First-gen LH cars do. Trust me, I'm eternally thankful for it! My wife was driving our '93 years ago when a cheap-sh*t aftermarket waterpump decided to shed its pulley right off its shaft. The timing belt didn't jump and was sliding around the pulley which was wedged in the little bulge in the timing cover, miraculously. Wife didn't notice the climbing temp gauge until the "check gauges" light came on and the chime started dinging at her. She pulled over before the aluminum heads curled up like newspaper in a bonfire, so the only damage was a smoking (but still working!) timing belt and a new waterpump. I credit that little light with saving me a LOT of money and cusswords.

Now what I *don't* know for sure is if it also pops on when the oil pressure light does. I thought it did, but now that Bill said he thought that it doesn't get routed through the computer, I'm not so sure.
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I should have kept out of this since I only know 2nd gen, and this is first gen. I will say that on second gen, the wiring between oil pressure switch and the low pressure light has absolutely no connection to anything else - no computers, nothing - apparently not the case in 1st gen (with Check Gauge light). What you guys say ebout the OP probably meaning Check Gauge light (which instantaneously turns on and off with the problem) instead of CEL (which latches) makes sense. If that is in fact the case, then my original post about the pressure switch/sender unit almost certainly being the problem is probably right (IOW - in this case in spite of my not understanding everything, I lucked out and possibly gave the right answer). :)

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
 
Steve said:
First-gen LH cars do. Trust me, I'm eternally thankful for it! My wife was driving our '93 years ago when a cheap-sh*t aftermarket waterpump decided to shed its pulley right off its shaft. The timing belt didn't jump and was sliding around the pulley which was wedged in the little bulge in the timing cover, miraculously. Wife didn't notice the climbing temp gauge until the "check gauges" light came on and the chime started dinging at her. She pulled over before the aluminum heads curled up like newspaper in a bonfire, so the only damage was a smoking (but still working!) timing belt and a new waterpump. I credit that little light with saving me a LOT of money and cusswords.

Now what I *don't* know for sure is if it also pops on when the oil pressure light does. I thought it did, but now that Bill said he thought that it doesn't get routed through the computer, I'm not so sure.
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Then more then likely the OP means check gauge lite comes on which more then likely is the oil sending unit/lubrication problems. The check engine lite is not tied into it at all.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
 
HI All!

Thanks for the answers!

So...My man changed the motor oil and the oil filter in the car. The CHECK ENGINE and oil pressure light turns on yet. Only when the car (and i think the oil) is hot. After i go about 15-20 mile and i stop at a traffic light. The transmission is in "D". The RPM falls down to 500-600 and the two light turns on. I change gear to "N" and that are off. No overheating! A water tempareture about 90 celsius.

Is the oil pump or crankshaft bearings can cause this problem??? Should i see any other sign if there are oil pump or shaft bearing problem??

Thanks!
 
HI All!

Thanks for the answers!

So...My man changed the motor oil and the oil filter in the car. The CHECK ENGINE and oil pressure light turns on yet. Only when the car (and i think the oil) is hot. After i go about 15-20 mile and i stop at a traffic light. The transmission is in "D". The RPM falls down to 500-600 and the two light turns on. I change gear to "N" and that are off. No overheating! A water tempareture about 90 celsius.

Is the oil pump or crankshaft bearings can cause this problem??? Should i see any other sign if there are oil pump or shaft bearing problem??

Thanks!
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The first thing to do is check the oil pressure with a manual gauge, if it is ok, replace the oil sending unit. Then you need to find out what fault code is set (if any) by connecting a scan tool to the vehicle.
 
Ok!
I will see that first...
but...where is the oil pressure switch and sending unit? Where can i find them?

thx
Sands
 
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