1995 Chrysler Cirrus startup problems

Discussion in 'Cirrus' started by domlamwaitung, Apr 11, 2007.

  1. To make a long story short,

    My 1995 Chrysler Cirrus won't start after one or more stops when
    running errands. After turning the vehicle off, it sometimes has
    troubles starting back up again. This often results in a few minutes
    to an hour of waiting before it MIGHT restart again. Lately, as the
    weather has gotten hotter, this problem has occurred more and more
    frequently. However, one episode happened that after driving for
    about 10 miles, I stopped (parked and turned car off) in front of my
    own business store to retrieve my mail. Then I jumped back into my
    car, but it failed to start again. I opened the hood, took a fan and
    extension cable from my shop and blew directly into the engine area,
    BINGO! After about a few minutes, the car started like it was in its
    brand new condition. Someone help me explain this?

    But some other times, I used the same gimmick-- it might or might not
    work. Starting our car seems to be run on luck and superstition.

    The main concern is that this problem worsens as the weather becomes
    warmer and warmer.
    By the way, we had a new PCM replaced last summer due to this bizarre
    starting problem. Seems like the problem is not going away, though.

    Can anyone help? My car mechanic recommended me to sell the car, but
    ethically, I can not do that. HELP MEE PLEASEEEE. I already spent
    over $1000 trying have the car fixed.
    domlamwaitung, Apr 11, 2007
  2. domlamwaitung

    Ron Seiden Guest

    Whenever you see something directly heat related (as in, it goes away when
    it cools), think "electronics". When you say it wouldn't start, did it crank
    over but not catch? Or did it do absolutely nothing when you turned the key?
    With all the electronics in modern cars, it could be anything from an
    almost-dead sensor up to the engine computer...
    Ron Seiden, Apr 11, 2007
  3. domlamwaitung

    damnnickname Guest

    you may get more replies if you post the egine size

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
    damnnickname, Apr 11, 2007
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    Please describe in detail the SYMPTOMS of "failing to start" since we have
    no idea of whether the engine turns over or not. Do you hear a click and
    nothing more? No click of the starter solenoid?

    Bob Shuman, Apr 11, 2007
  5. Thank you guys for your response!

    Sorry for not including the specifics earlier:
    -Engine size 2.5L

    Symptoms:In answer to Ron and Bob
    -when it fails, it cranks "normally" but doesn't catch. Also, at
    times, when it does restart, the engine speed is much slower than the
    normal idle speed and the noise seems to be coming from a diesel
    engine (I'm trying my best to describe this).
    Usually when the car fails to restart, the car seems to be really hot
    (compared to my other cars) when I open the hood. At the same time, if
    the car, say after a short while, like 5 minutes, is lucky enough to
    restart, the radiator fans (dual fans) never turn on unless the A/C is
    turned on subsequently.

    To reiterate, here is more info about my car:
    -I bought it used in 2005 with 110k miles
    -battery was replaced
    -new computer board (PCM)installed last summer
    domlamwaitung, Apr 13, 2007
  6. domlamwaitung

    Ron Seiden Guest

    1. If the fans don't come on regardless of heat, it could be the temperature
    sensor, the relay, or the fans themselves. Test the fans by connecting a
    jumper wire and see if they run (unlikely they'd both go at once ... unless
    one was already dead and then the other finally gave up). You *could* get
    out your VOM (electrical testing meter -- cheap but "good enough" ones
    available from Radio Shuck) and test the sensor (cold and then after soaking
    in boiling eater) or just pull one from a car like yours in a junkyard. You
    could also test the relay. My (and friends') experience has been that the
    sensors (generally screwed into the radiator) tend to go -- we got pretty
    good at pulling them from junkers whenever we could find them (as others had
    also been grabbing them...).
    ('Course, there was the used car I got whose electric fan wouldn't come on.
    Turned out the connector on the fan wire had unplugged itself. 2 second free
    2. The "new" computer board could have gotten totally fried from the heat or
    might work okay once you get the heat back under control. (Consider that it
    might have been replaced because the original one got heat killed...)
    3. For the long run, consider a modification a friend did for his car that
    suffered from short-lived fan temp sensors: We wired in both a pilot light
    that would show when the fans came on and a toggle switch to manually turn
    on the fans. If he saw the temp going up without the pilot light coming on,
    he'd just hit the switch to keep the fans running until he could replace the
    sensor (again!). (For this modification, you could try tapping the switch
    into the circuit the A/C uses to turn on the fans...)

    Two simple rules of thumb: If something fails or acts weird when it warms
    up, think electronics (even something as simple as the condensor on an older
    points-based engine). And, if there's more than one element to solving a
    problem, start with the simplest, cheapest fixes first. (Wouldn't you feel
    silly for spending time and money only to find out it was the easy thing all
    Ron Seiden, Apr 14, 2007

  7. Thank you so much.
    domlamwaitung, Apr 24, 2007
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    Aug 25, 2013
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    Same issue

    I am having the EXACT same issues.... it is really hard to start somedays.... plugging it in the summer seems to help.... also It will not start if I run errands... today my daughter took it to work and the car would crank but not turn over.... it will stall while I am driving and always have to drive in the far lane in case I need to exit.... then it may start or it might not for awhile. Sometimes while trying to start the car it will start but I have no power to the windows, horn etc... I will drive like that just to get home to find out if I start the car again... the issues seem to go away. I know people have said the fuel pump, while others say computer or sensors, battery or even alternator.... What I have read no one really knows what the issue is. i am no car expert but I wonder if the electrical is not totally screwed up
    Shannibelle, Aug 25, 2013
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