1990 Lebaron Convertable, no lights, intermittent starting problem.

Discussion in 'LeBaron' started by GAlan, Mar 7, 2005.

  1. GAlan

    GAlan Guest

    I have a 1990 LeBaron Convertable, 3.0L V6, 4 speed auto.

    None of the running lights work, nor do the cornering lamps.

    The turn signals, brake lights and headlights all work.

    When I install a fuse (20A) for the break lights then turn
    the lights on, it immediately blows.

    Jumpering across the fuse with a test lamp with the light switch
    on makes a buzzer sound weakly and lights the test lamp, but
    still no running lights.

    Sort of a pain not being able to drive it after sunset.


    The other problem is an intermittent crank but no-start
    after it's been driven a while then shut off and left to
    sit for a few minutes.


    I did some research today and found how to get the trouble
    codes, but I'm not certain exactly what the code number is
    due to the way the check engine light blinks.

    First is 12 for the start code, no problem there.

    Then it makes a long pause, blinks twice quickly then
    pauses, but not as long as the pause after the first code.

    Then it blinks twice quickly again and pauses as long as it
    did after the first code.

    Then it does the twice-pause-twice again then the long
    pause and 55 to indicate that it's done.

    So is it blinking 44, or 22 twice??? Why couldn't it just
    put the @%$@%#@%# codes out to the digital speedometer?
    (Duhhh, that'd be too _easy_ and too _logical_ and if the
    car owner ever found out the ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON trick with
    the ignition, then he or she might be able to figure out
    what a problem is without taking it to the expen$ive dealer.)


    I also found some articles on 1990's Chryslers and other
    MoPar makes that detail just how much of a pain they
    can be to diagnose even with fancy equipment because if
    you don't catch the problem as it happens, in three
    seconds the computer will lie to itself that the sensors
    are working properly by substituting their default values.
    This keeps the car running until too many things fail
    and the computer has to switch to "limp home" mode.

    One instance was a 1990 Lebaron Coupe that claimed the
    TPS voltage was exactly 5V when a voltmeter connected to
    the TPS was reading over 13V, with spikes to 60V.
    The problem turned out to be that the TPS wire and
    injector #1 wires had at some point been mashed and
    they were intermittently shorting together.
     
    GAlan, Mar 7, 2005
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  2. GAlan

    b.clausen Guest

    As for the lights, I had a similar problem with a 92 Lebaron, it was a bad
    relay. Not sure about your starter problem. But the relay was a quick fix,
    sounds exactly like what happened to mine.
     
    b.clausen, Mar 7, 2005
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  3. GAlan

    GAlan Guest

    Oops, I meant for the tail lamps, not the break lamps.
     
    GAlan, Mar 7, 2005
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  4. Time to figure out where the short circuit is. Remove all the bulbs on
    that circuit (front park/turn bulbs, front sidemarker bulbs, all tail
    bulbs, both license plate bulbs, and usually interior light bulbs) and
    turn the dashboard illumination off. Install the fuse. Does it blow? If
    it does not, start installing bulbs until you install one that causes the
    fuse to blow. If it does, you've got a short in the switch or wiring and
    will have to trace it. Start by disconnecting the instrument panel
    illumination feed.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Mar 7, 2005
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  5. GAlan

    mic canic Guest

    check the license plate wiring to see if it's pinched behind the panel
    directly behind the license plate
     
    mic canic, Mar 10, 2005
    #5
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