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Ted Mittelstaedt
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      01-13-2006

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> 2.4L, 4 cylinder
>


I think it's the same engine where they revised the head gasket, read this:

http://www.allpar.com/fix/headgasket-2.html

Ted


 
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Daniel Armstrong
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      01-13-2006

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> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:49:04 -0500, "maxpower"
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>>"Christian M. Mericle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>> Recent History: About 192K miles. Leaks oil. Battery fried less than a
>>> week ago and was replaced.
>>>
>>> Tonight on my way home from work, the check engine light came on,
>>> flashed a few times, and then remained on steadily. I drove about
>>> another half mile before stopping at a local store. I shut engine off,
>>> shopped for about 5 minutes, and then tried to start it back up.
>>>

>>
>>If the engine lite came on a few times and flashed as you were driving it.
>>That would be a cylinder misfiring. Nothing to do with thte starter.
>>> It sounds like the starter engages but only turns the motor a fraction
>>> of a turn (or not at all). Checked the oil and it is in the middle of
>>> the safe zone.
>>>
>>> Fault codes are:
>>> 12 -- Battery was recently replaced, as noted.
>>> 13
>>> 14
>>>

>>
>>These are map sensor fault codes which would cause a drivability problem
>>and
>>may even cause a no start but also has nothing to do with the starter. I
>>would start by checking to make sure the map sensor is connected under the
>>hood. You dont say what engine you have therefore I cant tell you where
>>the
>>sensor is located

>
> 2.4L. Sorry I left that out.
>
> I'm pretty sure now that it's a blown head gasket, though I'm not sure
> why it temporarily wouldn't turn over.
>
> -- Christian


Engine was probably hydrolocked due to having a cylinder full of coolant
that got forced into it past the blown gasket by the pressurized cooling
system. I would be willing to bet that the hydrolocking caused damage to
the rod, bearing, wrist pin, or piston that would evidence itself if you do
replace the gasket.


 
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Ted Mittelstaedt
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      01-14-2006

"Daniel Armstrong" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "CMM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:49:04 -0500, "maxpower"
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >>"Christian M. Mericle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >>news:(E-Mail Removed) groups.com...
> >>> Recent History: About 192K miles. Leaks oil. Battery fried less than a
> >>> week ago and was replaced.
> >>>
> >>> Tonight on my way home from work, the check engine light came on,
> >>> flashed a few times, and then remained on steadily. I drove about
> >>> another half mile before stopping at a local store. I shut engine off,
> >>> shopped for about 5 minutes, and then tried to start it back up.
> >>>
> >>
> >>If the engine lite came on a few times and flashed as you were driving

it.
> >>That would be a cylinder misfiring. Nothing to do with thte starter.
> >>> It sounds like the starter engages but only turns the motor a fraction
> >>> of a turn (or not at all). Checked the oil and it is in the middle of
> >>> the safe zone.
> >>>
> >>> Fault codes are:
> >>> 12 -- Battery was recently replaced, as noted.
> >>> 13
> >>> 14
> >>>
> >>
> >>These are map sensor fault codes which would cause a drivability problem
> >>and
> >>may even cause a no start but also has nothing to do with the starter.

I
> >>would start by checking to make sure the map sensor is connected under

the
> >>hood. You dont say what engine you have therefore I cant tell you where
> >>the
> >>sensor is located

> >
> > 2.4L. Sorry I left that out.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure now that it's a blown head gasket, though I'm not sure
> > why it temporarily wouldn't turn over.
> >
> > -- Christian

>
> Engine was probably hydrolocked due to having a cylinder full of coolant
> that got forced into it past the blown gasket by the pressurized cooling
> system. I would be willing to bet that the hydrolocking caused damage to
> the rod, bearing, wrist pin, or piston that would evidence itself if you

do
> replace the gasket.
>


If it hydrolocked while the engine was running it would definitely do
damage. But, if it hydrolocked just sitting there, and he went to start it
and the engine wouldn't turn at all, the starter doesen't have enough power
to damage these parts. Perhaps if the starter got it 3/4 of a revolution
going then it hydrolocked that might be something but I doubt it.

Ted


 
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Christian M. Mericle
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      01-15-2006
If it hydrolocked, it was after I shut it off. The engine didn't stall.
It just wouldn't restart after I shut it down.

-- Christian

 
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