Need to change mileage on Sebring

Discussion in 'Sebring' started by -Almazick-, Jun 20, 2006.

  1. -Almazick-

    -Almazick- Guest

    Hello guys. I have a big dilemma. In my 97 Sebring convertible BCM (body
    control module) went bad so I had to go to junk yard to buy another one. I
    installed BCM and now instead of 90k it shows 25k. I need to sell the car
    but the mileage is different and I can't sell it because the mileage is not
    accurate. I have the old BCM and called Chrysler dealer they estimated to
    fix the problem $1000. I was told that I have to buy a new BCM which cost
    $800 plus $200 for labor. I would like to know if I can connect BCM memory
    IC directly to my pc and download and upload all the data from old IC to a
    new IC. I have a good experience soldering IC's in the past but never had a
    problem like that. I'm not asking for step by step info just someone can
    point me to the right direction such as datasheets, software, etc.
     
    -Almazick-, Jun 20, 2006
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    sqdancerLynn Guest

    Their is a space for milage on the pink slip
    and a box to mark if the milage is incorrect.
    Just make note of milage at the time of sale
     
    sqdancerLynn, Jun 20, 2006
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    Bret Ludwig Guest

    -Almazick- wrote:
    > Hello guys. I have a big dilemma. In my 97 Sebring convertible BCM (body
    > control module) went bad so I had to go to junk yard to buy another one. I
    > installed BCM and now instead of 90k it shows 25k. I need to sell the car
    > but the mileage is different and I can't sell it because the mileage is not
    > accurate.


    Most people would love to have this problem.
     
    Bret Ludwig, Jun 20, 2006
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    TNKev Guest

    -Almazick- wrote:
    > Hello guys. I have a big dilemma. In my 97 Sebring convertible BCM
    > (body control module) went bad so I had to go to junk yard to buy
    > another one. I installed BCM and now instead of 90k it shows 25k. I
    > need to sell the car but the mileage is different and I can't sell it
    > because the mileage is not accurate. I have the old BCM and called
    > Chrysler dealer they estimated to fix the problem $1000. I was told
    > that I have to buy a new BCM which cost $800 plus $200 for labor. I
    > would like to know if I can connect BCM memory IC directly to my pc
    > and download and upload all the data from old IC to a new IC. I have
    > a good experience soldering IC's in the past but never had a problem
    > like that. I'm not asking for step by step info just someone can
    > point me to the right direction such as datasheets, software, etc.


    you can't change the mileage,it's against the law.(even if it is wrong)

    On the title there is a box for mileage discrepancy,as long as you disclose
    the correct mileage to the buyer there is no problem.
     
    TNKev, Jun 20, 2006
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    frenchy Guest

    I sold a motorcycle a few years ago and accidentally checked that
    'incorrect mileage' box. The buyer had to send me the paperwork to
    change it back to be unchecked again, what a pain!
    Frenchy
     
    frenchy, Jun 21, 2006
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  6. "sqdancerLynn" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Their is a space for milage on the pink slip
    > and a box to mark if the milage is incorrect.
    > Just make note of milage at the time of sale
    >


    Do you think that the buyer is going to believe "It really has 90K miles
    on it but I changed the BCM with one from a wrecking yard and so it
    only looks like it has 25K" Most buyers would not.

    I might believe him but even if I was buying the car I would tell the buyer
    that I cannot trust that it doesen't have 90K miles on it, that I think it
    is more likely it has 130K miles or even more. Why - because I know every
    other
    dumbass buyer that cannot inspect a car mechanically would think that,
    and would not offer him what the car was really worth. Why be magnamimous
    and offer him more than what everyone else would, even if I believed him?
    This is just business.

    The US average for miles driven per year is 14K miles, that is from the
    US DOT. This is a 9 year old car. per US DOT if it has average mileage
    it is gonna have 126K miles. And this is a convertible which is a sporty
    car and those are typically driven more anyway. The seller shows a very
    good grasp of the used car market when he thinks that the odometer
    discrepancy is going to impact the sale price - it is!

    What the seller needs to understand is that yes - he is gonna probably take
    at least a $1K hit on the car price because of this - but he already got
    that
    $1K back when he got out of paying for a new BCM and used the wrecking
    yard BCM. In other words there ain't no free lunch.

    One of the sad facts of life is that when you do your own wrenching your
    work isn't going to have market value if you ever decide to sell the car.
    For
    example in my case, last year I did my own transmission swap with a new
    rebuilt
    transmission. Do I have receipts showing that the rebuilt transmission I
    bought
    actually went into my van? No! I have a receipt showing I bought a rebuilt
    transmission, and that is it. For all a buyer knows my van has some
    wrecking
    yard transmission that is 2 shakes from death's door and the receipt is for
    a trans that went into some other van.

    If you do your own wrenching you have to accept that it's going to impact
    the resale value, that is life. If you don't like it, then pay others to
    work on
    your car.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 21, 2006
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    Coasty Guest

    As others have said make note in the appropriate space on the title.
    Especially if your state has pollution inspections because the state dmv
    will know based on that.
    Coasty

    "-Almazick-" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello guys. I have a big dilemma. In my 97 Sebring convertible BCM (body
    > control module) went bad so I had to go to junk yard to buy another one.
    > I installed BCM and now instead of 90k it shows 25k. I need to sell the
    > car but the mileage is different and I can't sell it because the mileage
    > is not accurate. I have the old BCM and called Chrysler dealer they
    > estimated to fix the problem $1000. I was told that I have to buy a new
    > BCM which cost $800 plus $200 for labor. I would like to know if I can
    > connect BCM memory IC directly to my pc and download and upload all the
    > data from old IC to a new IC. I have a good experience soldering IC's in
    > the past but never had a problem like that. I'm not asking for step by
    > step info just someone can point me to the right direction such as
    > datasheets, software, etc.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
    Coasty, Jun 21, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

    > ...If you do your own wrenching you have to accept that it's going to impact
    > the resale value, that is life. If you don't like it, then pay others to
    > work on
    > your car.
    >



    On the other hand, Ted, I doubt that there are many cars in the used
    market with the kind of high miles that are on yours and mine when we
    sell them that aren't DIY maintained. Any buyer in that market is gonna
    assume that. Who can afford to *pay* someone to maintain a 200+k mile
    car these days? And if they can afford that, they aren't going to keep
    it that long - they will already have bought new and sold the otherwise
    "junker" years ago.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 21, 2006
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    Joe Guest

    "Ted Mittelstaedt" <> wrote in message
    news:newscache$l2971j$cbj1$...
    >
    > "sqdancerLynn" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Their is a space for milage on the pink slip
    >> and a box to mark if the milage is incorrect.
    >> Just make note of milage at the time of sale
    >>

    >
    > Do you think that the buyer is going to believe "It really has 90K miles
    > on it but I changed the BCM with one from a wrecking yard and so it
    > only looks like it has 25K" Most buyers would not.


    Of course they'll believe it. You think they'd prefer to think it's got 25K
    on it? It's not worth enough to rip anybody off with.
     
    Joe, Jun 22, 2006
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  10. -Almazick-

    Joe Guest

    >
    > On the other hand, Ted, I doubt that there are many cars in the used
    > market with the kind of high miles that are on yours and mine when we sell
    > them that aren't DIY maintained. Any buyer in that market is gonna assume
    > that. > Bill Putney


    You're exactly right. I've certainly not been tempted to boost my car's
    value by paying mechanics. We all know that's a losing proposition.
     
    Joe, Jun 22, 2006
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  11. -Almazick-

    Joe Guest

    "TNKev" <> wrote in message
    news:44981e8a$0$76118$...
    > -Almazick- wrote:
    >> Hello guys. I have a big dilemma. In my 97 Sebring convertible BCM
    >> (body control module) went bad so I had to go to junk yard to buy
    >> another one. I installed BCM and now instead of 90k it shows 25k. I
    >> need to sell the car but the mileage is different and I can't sell it
    >> because the mileage is not accurate. I have the old BCM and called
    >> Chrysler dealer they estimated to fix the problem $1000. I was told
    >> that I have to buy a new BCM which cost $800 plus $200 for labor. I
    >> would like to know if I can connect BCM memory IC directly to my pc
    >> and download and upload all the data from old IC to a new IC. I have
    >> a good experience soldering IC's in the past but never had a problem
    >> like that. I'm not asking for step by step info just someone can
    >> point me to the right direction such as datasheets, software, etc.

    >
    > you can't change the mileage,it's against the law.(even if it is wrong)
    >
    > On the title there is a box for mileage discrepancy,as long as you
    > disclose the correct mileage to the buyer there is no problem.

    Actually, when you check that box, you have absolved yourself completely of
    that disclosure.
     
    Joe, Jun 22, 2006
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  12. "Bill Putney" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
    >
    > > ...If you do your own wrenching you have to accept that it's going to

    impact
    > > the resale value, that is life. If you don't like it, then pay others

    to
    > > work on
    > > your car.
    > >

    >
    >
    > On the other hand, Ted, I doubt that there are many cars in the used
    > market with the kind of high miles that are on yours and mine when we
    > sell them that aren't DIY maintained.


    I should have been more specific on the mileage and age ranges. Per
    Kelly Blue Book, anything over 19 years is worthless (ie: under $500)
    And I think per the blue book anything over 200K miles is also worthless.

    I really don't consider a vehicle that has a resale value of under $2K to
    be impacted by it's service history or lack thereof. The people worrying
    about resale value are exactly like the OP - a '97 or newer, and under
    100K miles. Most cars that meet that criteria are worth more than
    $2K. Once they get under $2K, their overall condition becomes more
    important than service history, or anything else.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 23, 2006
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