car wont start

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by 94sundance, Mar 20, 2005.

  1. 94sundance

    94sundance Guest

    "I have a 94 plymouth sundance and it wont start. i disconected the
    battey for a few hours to reset the computer and now it wont start. i
    don`t think that there is any spark could i have fried something. all
    the lights work the car just wont turn over i know its not a fuel
    problem i`ve tried some engine starter in to the carbaratior and it
    wont work still."
     
    94sundance, Mar 20, 2005
    #1
  2. First step, check for computer codes.

    To check the computer codes:

    With the engine off, switch the ignition key on-off-on-off-on,
    leaving it "ON". Do not
    go to "start", just "on" during this procedure.

    Watch the "Check Engine" or "Power Loss" light. It will turn on, then go
    off, then will begin to flash-out any trouble codes that have been stored.
    For instance, if it flashes:

    flash <pause> flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash

    Then you have a 12 (one flash followed by two) a 35 (three and five) and a
    55 (five and five). 55 means "end of codes" or, if by itself, "No codes
    stored. Check the codes and report what you find.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Mar 20, 2005
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  3. 94sundance

    94sundance Guest

    i got it to start it was the spark plugs they were bad very bad. now
    it takes forever to get going i press the acceltior all the way to the
    floor and it takes for ever to get going it moves slowley ti`ll it
    gets to about 30 then acts normally
     
    94sundance, Mar 21, 2005
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  4. 94sundance

    b.clausen Guest

    If the plugs were that bad, did you do the wires, cap and rotor as well? I
    just bought a 91 Sundance to drive as a work car, the plugs and everything
    associated with them were shot. Major improvement in running after all were
    changed.
     
    b.clausen, Mar 21, 2005
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  5. Have to agree. The no-power-until-about-30-mph sounds very much like
    the problem I was having. Replaced plugs and wires at the same time
    (no rotor). Problem solved.

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    Christian M. Mericle, Mar 21, 2005
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  6. 94sundance

    94sundance Guest

    planing on doing the plugs and the disdriputer tommorw let you know
    how it works
     
    94sundance, Mar 22, 2005
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  7. Christian M. Mericle, Mar 22, 2005
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  8. 94sundance

    94sundance Guest

    i ment the wires ant the distrupiter. already did the plugs
     
    94sundance, Mar 22, 2005
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  9. 94sundance

    94sundance Guest

    replaced the spark plug wires and now the car runs like a bat out of
    he** checked the computer codes i got 12 21 41 55
     
    94sundance, Mar 23, 2005
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  10. 12: Start of codes
    21: Oxygen sensor reading doesn't change
    41: Alternator field control circuit open or shorted
    55: End of codes

    The 21 means that the car will run even better (and get much better
    mileage) when you replace the Oxygen sensor, which is not difficult or
    expensive to do.

    The 41 means your battery is either being undercharged or overcharged;
    better get this fixed pronto or you'll get stranded.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Mar 23, 2005
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  11. 94sundance

    maxpower Guest

    Thats incorrect info again. The first thing you need to do is fix the
    charging problem. If it is overcharging or undercharging the sensor values
    could be incorrect. With the sensor values working on 5 volts and a
    charging system malfunctioning, this could cause all kinds of problems
    including rich/lean problems.
    Daniel, are you having people throw parts at cars again? Thats not like you
    pal!!

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Mar 23, 2005
    #11
  12. 94sundance

    maxpower Guest

    Thats incorrect info again. The first thing you need to do is fix the
    charging problem. If it is overcharging or undercharging the sensor values
    could be incorrect. With the sensor values working on 5 volts and a
    charging system malfunctioning, this could cause all kinds of problems
    including rich/lean problems.
    Daniel, are you having people throw parts at cars again? Thats not like you
    pal!!

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Mar 23, 2005
    #12
  13. 94sundance

    94sundance Guest

    i used to have a overheating problem with the car and it used to spray
    hot coolant all over the alternatior. i think thats what damaged that.
     
    94sundance, Mar 23, 2005
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  14. 94sundance

    maxpower Guest

    http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=509301

    Before you throw parts at it make sure the charging system is working
    correctly
     
    maxpower, Mar 23, 2005
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  15. 94sundance

    94sundance Guest

    the charging system seems fine ive never had a problem with it.
     
    94sundance, Mar 24, 2005
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  16. 94sundance

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    No... you've got a code saying that you've got a problem with your
    charging system. That means it doesn't seem fine at the moment, no
    matter how little trouble you've had with it up until now. It's time
    to find out if it's still fine.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Mar 24, 2005
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  17. 94sundance

    94sundance Guest

    i just checked the computer agian and it only had a code 21 now and
    its not running as well as it was.
     
    94sundance, Mar 25, 2005
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  18. Oxygen sensor
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Mar 25, 2005
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  19. 94sundance

    maxpower Guest

    http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=511164

    Yup, replace the 02 sensor, but if you ever have a charging problem, be it
    over or undercharging, thats the first thing you need to correct before
    anything else.
     
    maxpower, Mar 25, 2005
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