1991 Shadow fuel pump problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jonathan Grobe, Jan 20, 2005.

  1. 1991 Shadow has a fuel pump problem. At first it
    was thought the fuel pump was not working, but after
    taking it out and testing it directly it worked. Any
    thoughts as to what is likely to be broken (the tank
    is not getting electricity)?
     
    Jonathan Grobe, Jan 20, 2005
    #1
  2. The fuel pump receives power from the fuel pump relay, which in turn is
    energized only on the Auto Shutdown (ASD) relay's say-so, which occurs
    only when the Single Board Engine Controller (SBEC) gives the go-ahead,
    which happens only if:
    -The ignition is switched "on"
    -The SBEC is receiving power
    -The SBEC sees a pulse signal from the hall effect pickup in the
    distributor.

    Your first diagnostic step is to disconnect the negative battery cable for
    two minutes, reconnect it, crank the engine, then check for stored flash
    codes.

    To check the computer codes:

    With the engine off, switch the ignition key on-off-on-off-on,
    leaving it "ON". Do not
    go to "start", just "on" during this procedure.

    Watch the "Check Engine" light. It will turn on, then go off, then will
    begin to flash-out any trouble codes that have been stored. For instance,
    if it flashes:

    flash <pause> flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash

    Then you have a 12 (one flash followed by two) a 35 (three and five) and a
    55 (five and five). 55 means "end of codes" or, if by itself, "No codes
    stored. Check the codes and report what you find.

    "12" means "start of codes" when observed via the dash light.
    "55" means "end of codes".

    If you get a code "11" (12-11-55), the hall effect pickup in your
    distributor has gone and you'll need a replacement.

    If you get no codes at all, your SBEC isn't getting power and you've
    probably got a corroded wire or a blown fuselink upstream of the SBEC.

    If you get other codes, other problems may be indicated (faulty ASD relay,
    faulty fuel pump relay).

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 20, 2005
    #2
  3. Jonathan Grobe

    Anthony Guest

    Auto Fuel Shut-Off switch, located on my 94, behind an interior panel on
    the drivers side near the rear wheel. Check your manual for location.
    This must be manually re-set if tripped.



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    Anthony, Jan 20, 2005
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  4. Jonathan Grobe

    damnnickname Guest

    be careful bench testing the pump. its a good way to have a fire, You
    needed to check for 12 volts and a good ground at the fuel pump when it
    was in the tank,did you do that before removing it? You only have 3
    seconds before ASD shuts down the the pump when testing so you may want to
    get a second person to turn the key on while you are testing.
    It could still be the pump and by taking it out may have gotten it to
    work for the bench test .some times if you hit the bottom of the tank
    where the pump is.....it will get the pump running again
    Any codes in the memory of the engine controller
     
    damnnickname, Jan 20, 2005
    #4
  5. Jonathan Grobe

    damnnickname Guest

    hmmm what kind of car is this? Because it isnt a Chrysler Product
     
    damnnickname, Jan 20, 2005
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